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I applaud their bravery and courage but I also question their thoughts.
As a black man, if I decide I want to be white and bleached my skin and permed my hair, I would be told it was self-hatred and looked on as a freak.
But if I wear a wig and skirt, I'm suppose to be respected?
Society is clearly not ready to go down this rabbit hole of endless possibilities of self-identification. If you can self-identify as a different sex/gender, then you should be allowed to self-identify as a different race.
One thing I am absolutely certain, I'll pick my pronouns based upon the appearance of the person, and won't ask him to drop his pants or her to lift her skirt. (Ick!)
I was at a cafe Friday and was faced with a gender neutral person, our server. Me and GF discussed the person's gender and I never did come up with an answer. She had an answer and I know it's a very bad idea to argue with my date!
-How do you think transgender people decided to transition? In other words, do you think it's simply a matter of misalignment of the body and mind, a severe mental illness, or a conscious decision?
I believe transgenderism is epigenetic and should carry no stigma.
-Would you date a transgender person? What would be the deal breaker?
I've been married for more than thirty years, so no?
-More likely to date a "passable" transgender person or non passable?
Irrelevant.
-What thoughts would run through your head if you found out someone is transgender?
I'd make a note of it and move on with whatever I was already doing.
-When it comes to friendships, would you be friends with a transgender person?
If we had similar interests that could be the basis for friendship, yes.
-Would you be "embarrassed" to be seen with a transgender person, whether it's as friends or as a love interest?
I've stopped caring enough about what other people think of me to be embarrassed.
-Are you likely to openly make negative remarks at a transgender person?
No.
-Also, describe yourself a bit! What's your age, political views, and location? Urban, suburban, or rural? White collar worker or blue collar worker?
Fifty-something woman. Mother of young adult children. Politically unaffiliated. Intermountain West. Suburban. College-educated.
This is purely out of curiosity. My friend and I touched on the subject and it got me interested to see how open the world is.
Do you think it's right that straight men are bullied into dating MTF transgenders/biological men with male DNA born with a penis?
how are men bullied into dating ANYONE??
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Originally Posted by ihatepeoplesomuch
What are your thoughts on transgender people?
I have a number of MTF transgender friends who I love very much
I'm interested to see what people think of transgender people.
-How do you perceive someone that is "passable" vs. someone that's not passable?
For instance, PrincessJoules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9BVPUzNaVQ vs. someone that has obvious masculine features but still wears female clothing and presents as female?
-How do you think transgender people decided to transition? In other words, do you think it's simply a matter of misalignment of the body and mind, a severe mental illness, or a conscious decision?
From what my friends have told me, it is a misalignment, for lack of a better term.
-Would you date a transgender person? What would be the deal breaker?
I am twice divorced and have no interest in dating ANYONE anymore..... But if the chemistry and attraction were there, I would have no problem dating a FTM ...... deal breaker?? loss of interest in the relationship or cheating
-More likely to date a "passable" transgender person or non passable?
I'm guessing that for me, the person would have to be passable
-What thoughts would run through your head if you found out someone is transgender?
the same thoughts I would have about anyone when getting acquainted...... I am more interested in THEIR interests, goals, what makes them happy, what makes them mad..... what makes them TICK......
-When it comes to friendships, would you be friends with a transgender person?
I am already.....
-Would you be "embarrassed" to be seen with a transgender person, whether it's as friends or as a love interest?
Heck no ..... I do get annoyed at times by the stares from others, though......
-Are you likely to openly make negative remarks at a transgender person?
No..... I treat others as I myself want to be treated.
-Also, describe yourself a bit! What's your age, political views, and location? Urban, suburban, or rural? White collar worker or blue collar worker?
58 y/o, fairly liberal, professional/white collar, college educated woman in a suburban to rural-ish area of a large urban area.
This is purely out of curiosity. My friend and I touched on the subject and it got me interested to see how open the world is.
and Lovehound, I am loving your posts in this thread..... you sound like a fun guy!!
Thanks for the complement latetotheparty! I've been working on my head for about 5 years and just in the last 6 months or so I'm getting a pretty good pay-off. For the record I have always been non-prejudiced. What I mean is that until recently I wasn't that social, or the term that I LOL at: social butterfly. I recently went about a dozen years since breaking up with my previous girlfriend, and perhaps a bit like you (or not) I just sort of withdrew from dating. I was interested in women, just not enough to do anything, and inhibited by a tendency to shyness. Changing my head and joining two online dating sites changed all that. The women I'm dating seem to be having a good time. I am!
It would be interesting if somebody in the know could describe how transgender people look and act. The TGs I've seen in the news didn't impress me as a very acceptable presentation of their new gender. The TG men appear seriously feminine (like a woman wearing a Chaplin mustache) and the TG women appear seriously masculine, almost a travesty in the original meaning of the word: before it was acceptable for women to appear in live plays so men dressed as women played their parts.
Just for the record, I think that true transgenderism has to be more than just a psychological condition. Most people don't realize (but I do due to my education BS degree + minor in Psych) that there aren't just two genders, there is a wide spectrum of intermediate and indeterminate genders between male and female (true XX and XY). There are also many genome anomalies that contribute to gender appearance and probably gender identification. — I don't know for sure but my best guess is that the real transgenders are more likely than not to not be the ordinary XX or XY with no unusual genomic characteristics.
So if any of you know transgender people well, please describe your friends or acquaintances.
It may also be interesting to compare and contrast transvestism vs. transgenderism. ... This is an interesting topic and I'm glad I'm in it and reading the other posts. I am particularly glad that everybody had been serious and genuine in their discussion of what may be a controversial topic for many. I really like topics that lead to improved relations between diverse people.
I'm interested to see what people think of transgender people.
-How do you perceive someone that is "passable" vs. someone that's not passable?
For instance, PrincessJoules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9BVPUzNaVQ vs. someone that has obvious masculine features but still wears female clothing and presents as female?
-How do you think transgender people decided to transition? In other words, do you think it's simply a matter of misalignment of the body and mind, a severe mental illness, or a conscious decision?
-Would you date a transgender person? What would be the deal breaker?
-More likely to date a "passable" transgender person or non passable?
-What thoughts would run through your head if you found out someone is transgender?
-When it comes to friendships, would you be friends with a transgender person?
-Would you be "embarrassed" to be seen with a transgender person, whether it's as friends or as a love interest?
-Are you likely to openly make negative remarks at a transgender person?
-Also, describe yourself a bit! What's your age, political views, and location? Urban, suburban, or rural? White collar worker or blue collar worker?
This is purely out of curiosity. My friend and I touched on the subject and it got me interested to see how open the world is.
My thoughts are....live and let live. What does it cost you to do so...?
On a personal level, I feel sorry for them as society just isn't set up in a way for those people to be comfortable. A lot of trans people, particularly youth, go through some pretty awful things. The suicide rate for trans teens is astronomical. The murder rate for trans women with male partners is also high.
With that said, I think the movement toward trans is more of a function of mass media than anything else. I believe people are mostly born on some continuum of bisexuality, with some people being exclusively gay or straight. I don't see any genetic component to being trans.
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