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Old 04-21-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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Is there a name for that 'syndrome'?
We ought to name it because it's pandemic.

Some answers to the topic question please.

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Old 04-21-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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Hmmm. How about: the normal human condition?

That description works for me.

Because frankly, assumptions, while they could be incorrect, are based on parameters we have established through experience during our lifetimes and give us a jumping-off point for understanding a situation. Without those parameters we'd be lost and every new experience would be treated as ENTIRELY new, as in literally, soup to nuts. Life would be impossible to navigate that way.

All human beings make some assumptions. We may be corrected and graciously accept that correction, or our assumption may be correct. It can go either way.

So I'm going with: normal human condition.
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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At its worst it's prejudice or bigotry.
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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At its worst it's prejudice or bigotry.
At its worst, yes, I agree.

But why assume (not necessarily you, fleetie) that an assumption must be negative/negatively judgmental? Sometimes we make assumptions far on the other side of the scale; yet other times, the assumption may be neutral. For example, I might walk into a party assuming people will be friendly and the food will be good. I'm assuming my kids will have a good day at school today because they left in good moods and with a good breakfast under their belts and the homework all done, and I'm assuming my work day will be done at about 2:00. None of these are negative. They could be wrong but they exist because they are my parameters, via experience, of these various happenings. They give me a basic "graph" or chart (mentally) of my day and allow me to proceed forward: 1. I'll start getting dressed for the party at 6PM, 2. I'll be waiting at 3:00 for my kids' buses, 3. I will map things out for my work day and make a list of what to have done before 2PM.
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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How can you not know that what you just perceived is an assumption on your part if your perception is based on assumptions made beyond the scope of the factual information given at that moment?
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Hmmm. How about: the normal human condition?

That description works for me.

Because frankly, assumptions, while they could be incorrect, are based on parameters we have established through experience during our lifetimes and give us a jumping-off point for understanding a situation. Without those parameters we'd be lost and every new experience would be treated as ENTIRELY new, as in literally, soup to nuts. Life would be impossible to navigate that way.

All human beings make some assumptions. We may be corrected and graciously accept that correction, or our assumption may be correct. It can go either way.

So I'm going with: normal human condition.
What you call 'the normal human condition" involves needless/unnecessary emotional suffering.
quote; "All human beings make some assumptions."unquote. Yes, we are designed/structured to make assumptions*. And yes, can be correct or false. "It can go either way". So 'recognition' is the key to optimal use of assumptions.
The question is; "What's the outcome when we UNKNOWINGLY assume perceptions?"
My answer to that:- Our amygdalae react automatically to perceptions, those originating in/from environment and those simulated/imitated by 'thought' (assumed perception). amygdalae do not recognize the difference, so we must be aware of the thoughts we think so that we can dismiss/veto/rescind thoughts BEFORE amygdalae react to false ones.

*When a deer or rabbit hears a noise from behind a bush, they flee, before or without 'seeing' what caused the noise. (It could have been another deer or rabbit, or some other innocuous source, they don't wait to see because time is of the essence 'in case' it is made by a predator. Doesn't that 'seem' like rudimentary assumption at the cellular level?) In case of animals, it doesn't matter if they were 'wrong', they survive, and that's what matters. With humans, when we 'recognize' it's only an assumption, not every assumption is a critical life or death. When the perception originates in/from environment, I agree, don't take chances, but when we 'know' it's our own assumption,(thought) we're about to react to, we can avoid making so many mistakes.

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Old 04-21-2016, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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How can you not know that what you just perceived is an assumption on your part if your perception is based on assumptions made beyond the scope of the factual information given at that moment?
Great question. You familiar with the rope/snake illustration?
We can 'look' at a piece of rope but 'see' a snake, (snake is assumed perception in that case).
If someone is with you, ask them do you see a snake? If they don't then your sure you experienced a 'assumed perception".

Years ago, when I heard someone say; "When you assume, you make a ass of u and me". It did not feel right to me, I knew I could not stop assuming any more than I could stop breathing.
I learned to 'be aware of ' or 'recognize' when assuming.

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Old 04-23-2016, 09:50 AM
 
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[quote=JerZ;

Because frankly, assumptions, while they could be incorrect, are based on parameters we have established through experience during our lifetimes and give us a jumping-off point for understanding a situation. Without those parameters we'd be lost and every new experience would be treated as ENTIRELY new, as in literally, soup to nuts. Life would be impossible to navigate that way.
/QUOTE]

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How can you not know that what you just perceived is an assumption on your part if your perception is based on assumptions made beyond the scope of the factual information given at that moment?
[quote=sakoz-2]Great question. You familiar with the rope/snake illustration?
We can 'look' at a piece of rope but 'see' a snake, (snake is assumed perception in that case).
If someone is with you, ask them do you see a snake? If they don't then your sure you experienced a 'assumed perception".
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Old 04-23-2016, 10:38 PM
 
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How can you not know that what you just perceived is an assumption on your part if your perception is based on assumptions made beyond the scope of the factual information given at that moment?
"How can you NOT know that what you just perceived is an assumption...............?"
It seems incredulous; but it happens all too often, (everyday, called 'conditioning')
Examples: Most children DO NOT RECOGNIZE their thought of 'bogyman' is only a thought. and they suffer as a result.
Placebo experiment subjects DO NOT RECOGNIZE their thought of innocuous sugar pill is only a thought and they are deceived by their own thought/assumption.
How can they NOT know that what they just perceived is ONLY their assumption?
Shall we inquire into that, and come up with an answer so that we will RECOGNIZE our assumptions from then on? CSD610, I do hope you participate in that inquiry, and several other readers as well.
Relief is in sight, once we recognize our assumptions.
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Old 04-24-2016, 08:09 PM
 
Location: City of the Angels
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