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Old 05-16-2016, 01:38 PM
 
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Dayum. Takara Allen looks fineeeee. Jesus Chrsit, there are women like her on Tinder? How to I tinder and end up on a date with a Takara Allen? She still available ? I could care less how she or anyone else wants to identify. You want to call yourself a native-america, irish, black, chinise, mexican, I don't care. Let's do this thang!!!
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Old 05-16-2016, 01:41 PM
 
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She's Australian too! OMG. She is perfect. Contacting Takara Allen now. I will let you know how our first date goes!!!!
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Old 05-16-2016, 07:27 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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There is no "should." Identify how you choose to identify. It's your life.
I agree.

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But doesn't the very act of "identifying" as something rule out any other options? You can't "choose" to identify with something, can you? Either you do or you don't. Take the whole gender-identity thing; you can't just choose to identify with the gender you are, it has to be there naturally. Otherwise, there'd be no problem.

Also, if you're a certain percentage of a certain race, then that's what you are. The conversation is over.
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Old 05-16-2016, 09:51 PM
 
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But everyone is saying she is not even black and looks very white (probably filters) and already wears blue contacts and so on,she seems a bit ridiculous with her I'm black,I'm black etc.
https://www.instagram.com/takarawinel/

Even though she is probably 30 percent black.
You can still tell she's black-ish. She cannot unmistakably pass for a white girl. Regardless of what percentage black she is, you can still see she's got it in her. I looked at her page, and when she's not wearing colored contacts and when her hair is curly, she looks more black.

I think a person should identify by what they look like, not what they are mixed with. Obama is half white but he cannot pass for a white man. After all, you cannot look black unless you ARE.
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Old 05-17-2016, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Considering in American history, you had to identify as black with as little as 1/8 black heritage. Looking "black" is quite meaningless. This has spilled over into modern racial classifications. As for the woman in question, she looks "black" to me as I have cousins that look like her. Some with 2 "black" parents. And some with one. Identify how you feel like. But keep in mind a lot of racial identity is based on how you are perceived.
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Old 05-17-2016, 09:30 AM
 
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Yes, reconciling how we perceive ourselves to how the world perceives us can be a confusing process.

I would have initially guessed the girl was Latina. I do find it a MAJOR turnoff when black women feel the need to abandon their natural beauty in an effort to conform to someone else's idea of how they "should" look. I interpret that as weakness.
You apparently don't notice that our society tells black women in particular they are not pretty and these comments are generally not inclusive of all types of black. There is a story every month about a black woman or child who gets in trouble wearing there natural hair to school or work because it is "distracting." Just 2 days ago a cartoonist drew a pic of Michelle Obama and Melania Trump implying Obama was unfeminine and was not a real First Lady while Trump would be. It's not a sign of weakness but survival.
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Old 05-17-2016, 07:20 PM
 
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It looks like I may have misinterpreted the use of the word "identify" in this thread. I was assuming it meant how you felt as a person, how you saw yourself, what you related to, not how you would "label" yourself for others.

Anyway, back on topic.
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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I do notice since I grew up in that culture.

Just because someone/society says you are "wrong" in some superficial way, does not mean you have to accept it -- especially when you know it is not true. If you do, then you are more wrong than the people criticizing you (and thus weak, as I said).



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You apparently don't notice that our society tells black women in particular they are not pretty and these comments are generally not inclusive of all types of black. There is a story every month about a black woman or child who gets in trouble wearing there natural hair to school or work because it is "distracting." Just 2 days ago a cartoonist drew a pic of Michelle Obama and Melania Trump implying Obama was unfeminine and was not a real First Lady while Trump would be. It's not a sign of weakness but survival.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:11 AM
 
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You apparently don't notice that our society tells black women in particular they are not pretty and these comments are generally not inclusive of all types of black. There is a story every month about a black woman or child who gets in trouble wearing there natural hair to school or work because it is "distracting." Just 2 days ago a cartoonist drew a pic of Michelle Obama and Melania Trump implying Obama was unfeminine and was not a real First Lady while Trump would be. It's not a sign of weakness but survival.
I notice this a bit more. Looking at comments with media. Whenever a woman is light-skinned, and attractive, people will say they're everything but black, even throwing out options that are not ethnicities. I hear some comment on some stars "She's not black, she Latina." And Latina is not an ethnicity. There are black, white, and Indian Latinas. Being Latina means very little as to whether someone has black, or African may be the proper term, in them. But the light skinned, more conventionally attractive women will be perceived as mixed, or something else entirely, but not "black."

The adult film actress Dee Baker. A pretty woman. She is Latina I believe, but I think she has some black in her.
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/silve...43817_1000.jpg
But, once again you hear the comments "She's not black." Someone even said on one site "She's in a lot of black-themed movies, it's like they wanna sell her as a black woman, or something."

It seems this is something that goes on more with black women. There seems to be a certain bias with what makes for attractive with black women, Lighter skin, straight hair, and smaller features will get more attention as attractive. to a broader audience. Maybe full lips at best are fine.

Looking at the girl in the OP, yeah, she looks black. As stated, people should identify however they see fit. Other people's stereotypes or ignorance shouldn't stop you.

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Old 05-18-2016, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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There seems to be a certain bias with what makes for attractive with black women, Lighter skin, straight hair, and smaller features will get more attention as attractive. to a broader audience. Maybe full lips at best are fine.

Ironically, tanning, lip injections, and butt implants -- the very things that give non-black women the attributes that have always been associated with black women -- are popular. So there is obviously something else going on in the psyches of people who denigrate black women.
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