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I couldn't agree more. Why shouldn't a millineal expect to be able to get a decent job after college? Because they aren't asking for too much. After all, that's exactly what their parents did. But it doesn't work anymore. And their parents know that. Yet they still STILL pushing their high schoolers to go to college knowing full well that it won't help them get a job and will mostly just earn them boatloads of debt instead. I suspect it's because parents don't know what else to suggest and somehow believe that their kids will end up prostitutes or drug dealers if they don't complete their Bachelor's degrees.
A few of my neighbor's kids just graduated high school, and instead of going to college like their parents wanted, they either joined the military or started low paying jobs and are hoping to earn promotions slowly over the years. They have learned to get ahead in their own way.
Employment positions are not to be expected. There is no guarantee that someone will want to trade money for your time and talent. Why on Earth would someone "expect" that? So, the next step is to prepare oneself for the fields of endeavor where employment is a high probability. That means surveying the job market before deciding on a major to fit that market. And not selecting majors with no little or no marketable potential. Or even better, choosing a vocational school where the turnaround to graduation is short and the job prospects are much clearer.
But if someone wastes 4 years on becoming a religion or psychology or art major, then they should expect no job at all other than Walmart or landscaping, etc.
The other option is to take action and not sit around waiting for a job. Start a business and hire yourself. Figure out what people are needing and provide it for pay. "Oh, but that's not easy and you need money to start". Live cheap, work hard and long at low paying job(s), save money for 5 years, study up, then start the business.
Because one's parents had it easy obtaining employment is no guarantee that one should expect easy employment at a different time. Things do not stay the same. "It was then, and so it should be now" is silly and irreflective of Reality. There is no right to a job, or any specific wage, and there should be no expectation that a job will just be "there" awaiting an application and a smile.
This is an example of entitlement error. That one "deserves" things just by existing and "things should be a certain way" because it would be comfortable or convenient.
Millennials suffer from entitlement error in a big way. Because they stare at little screens 24/7 and have a permanent 39 degree angle in their necks and can Google the answer to a question, they view themselves as smart and valuable and experts on world affairs. Unfortunately they can't solve any problems, but they are good at telling you what their problem with you is.
I really can't catagorize in neat little boxes. I judge people on how they treat me.
Yea, someone's age isn't everything when we are stereotyping groups of people based on generation brackets.
To the OP, just find the few people that you do like and ignore the rest. Getting upset about what other people do (around your age) does not do anything positive for you.
I think the biggest reason I am not really the same as most other millennials is that I am one of the only people I know that actually had a strict dad.
...Really? You must run in a very small circle. It's also impressive you are so well versed and intimate with the family dynamics of mostly everyone's childhood in your millennial social circle.
Anyway, the way you described millennials is how a LOT of people are, regardless of age. I'm a millennial myself, and while I do think we have a lot of those characteristics, so do other folks. I have a lot of friends older than me (30's and 40's and on) who only communicate via text for the most part. I know so many self centered people that aren't my age. I know many millennials who are self centered, and many who aren't.
Materialistic ways in general have gone up. This isn't exclusive to millennials.
I think on the whole, people are people, and everyone wants to think their generation is special.
While I DO think some of the stereotypes might be true for many of us, we have done a lot of good. I think when people say they hate millennials they are almost trying to be edgy and unique, which is ironically a criticism many make of millennials.
I was born in 1991 and thus belong to what you could call the millennial generation. Most people who hate on generations are hating on other ones, but I find myself utterly despising other millennials and pretty much agree with most of the bad things that have been said about them (I don't actually live in the USA by the way but things are not so much different where I live in regards to how millennials behave).
The biggest reason I despise them is how little they seem to actually care about anything but themselves. Don't get me wrong, I don't think some kind of socialist collectivism is better than capitalism or anything, but I still think people should be willing to make SOME sacrifices for the greater good and NOT consider themselves the to be the center of the universe. I think the biggest reason I am not really the same as most other millennials is that I am one of the only people I know that actually had a strict dad. I got spanked if I did not behave (which by the way, is now illegal to do and is considered child abuse...), so there was nothing open to debate in regards to who was in charge when I was a child. There were no negotiations with my dad, he commanded and I listened if I knew what was good for me.
A perfect example of how narcissistic my generation has become and a big reason for why I hate it is how it seems utterly disinterested in ever having a true face to face conversation with you. Or for that matter, even a conversation over the phone. Because that you see, would require actual effort to do! Oh, how can the poor millennials be expected to dedicate THEIR valuable time talking to another person when they could just spend 10-20 seconds crafting a simple text message and then spend the saved time on themselves!
I am dead ****ing serious. Try to contact a millennial that you don't already know very well and try to convince them to actually TALK to you instead of just sending a few simple texts. 90% of the time they can't be bothered. In fact, even WHEN they are doing something with others like going out for dinner, they STILL can't keep themselves away from their phones which just goes to show just how little they actually respect the person they are with. Other people are only toys or gadgets to millennials just like their stupid phones, nothing more.
Any other millennials here who utterly hate millennials even though they themselves are also millennial?
OP, I don't know what you're talking about. There's been narcissism in every generation. The Roaring 20's and the 30's were full of narcissists. The materialist 50's were, too, and the 80's famously were the "Me Generation". I've heard a lot of Gen-X-ers and even Boomers talking about how narcissistic their parents were, all wrapped up in their social lives and the cocktail party circuit to the point that they neglected their kids. Heck, I have older relatives who can't stop motor-mouthing about themselves. Sadly, this is nothing new.
I am an older millennial (28) and honestly the thing that annoys me the most (even though I am not a political/social conservative by any means) is the fact that so many people in my age bracket are "social justice warriors" and are so heavily into being politically correct 24/7. I am also fed up with the narcissism, shallow relationships, entitlement issues, and materialism as well but I don't think that it is necessarily a generational thing since those two traits have existed ever since humanity has evolved.
Employment positions are not to be expected. There is no guarantee that someone will want to trade money for your time and talent. Why on Earth would someone "expect" that? So, the next step is to prepare oneself for the fields of endeavor where employment is a high probability. That means surveying the job market before deciding on a major to fit that market. And not selecting majors with no little or no marketable potential. Or even better, choosing a vocational school where the turnaround to graduation is short and the job prospects are much clearer.
But if someone wastes 4 years on becoming a religion or psychology or art major, then they should expect no job at all other than Walmart or landscaping, etc.
The other option is to take action and not sit around waiting for a job. Start a business and hire yourself. Figure out what people are needing and provide it for pay. "Oh, but that's not easy and you need money to start". Live cheap, work hard and long at low paying job(s), save money for 5 years, study up, then start the business.
Because one's parents had it easy obtaining employment is no guarantee that one should expect easy employment at a different time. Things do not stay the same. "It was then, and so it should be now" is silly and irreflective of Reality. There is no right to a job, or any specific wage, and there should be no expectation that a job will just be "there" awaiting an application and a smile.
This is an example of entitlement error. That one "deserves" things just by existing and "things should be a certain way" because it would be comfortable or convenient.
Millennials suffer from entitlement error in a big way. Because they stare at little screens 24/7 and have a permanent 39 degree angle in their necks and can Google the answer to a question, they view themselves as smart and valuable and experts on world affairs. Unfortunately they can't solve any problems, but they are good at telling you what their problem with you is.
Well said.
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Originally Posted by beasley106
I am an older millennial (28) and honestly the thing that annoys me the most (even though I am not a political/social conservative by any means) is the fact that so many people in my age bracket are "social justice warriors" and are so heavily into being politically correct 24/7. I am also fed up with the narcissism, shallow relationships, entitlement issues, and materialism as well but I don't think that it is necessarily a generational thing since those two traits have existed ever since humanity has evolved.
If millennials want to redeem themselves, they need to produce a few noticeable "social injustice warriors" -- for the sake of diversity.
I wonder what percentage of milennials are going to wise up as the enter their 30's and realize that all the left wing propaganda they were spoon fed in high school and college was the biggest load of horse**** the world's ever seen.
Is it wrong of me to want to grab the smartphone out of the hand of every milennial I have the misfortune of coming into contact with and beat them to death with it?
I am an older millennial (28) and honestly the thing that annoys me the most (even though I am not a political/social conservative by any means) is the fact that so many people in my age bracket are "social justice warriors" and are so heavily into being politically correct 24/7. I am also fed up with the narcissism, shallow relationships, entitlement issues, and materialism as well but I don't think that it is necessarily a generational thing since those two traits have existed ever since humanity has evolved.
It seems to have become popular for many privileged white millennials to present themselves as very politically correct. And it's become trendy for white people to insult other white people and say they're "phobic"- xenophobic, transphobic, islamophobic... It's basically just another way for insecure 20's and teenagers to bully other people and feel superior- even though they're merely keyboard warriors and don't even practice anything they preach. Many of these kids pride themselves on not being racist, even though in their own lives they actively benefit from white privilege and probably wouldn't enjoy not having that privilege..so why they **** and moan over racism, I've no idea, since ultimately, racism has afforded them a better life.
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