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the behavior should still be punished and a sex offender's registry could be established to keep tabs on them
Anything that has to be "registered" can and does ruin good peoples lives....I don't trust them...too many innocents can fall through the cracks.
How would we keep tabs on them?...even IF they were registered.
Many of the answers here are quite disturbing and display an astonishing level of ignorance. Let's start with there is not a one size fits all. Secondly, pedophilia is not linked to sexual orientation.
But, the question is still important which is basically how do we deal with a pedophiles free in society. Currently, we have large data bases of registered sexual abusers. It is never 100% up to date and it doesn't contain the names of people that have been "caught." In short, it does little to protect society from sexual abusers. More importantly, it does not address treatment of the problem.
My answer is the same for this and every other mental health condition, disease or otherwise - expand (and, yes fund) and make available to everyone mental health care. There are literally millions of Americans that suffer from some mental or psychological disorder and desperately need help. Without help they pose a danger to themselves and to others. We see examples every day and we can't (well maybe you could) euthanize the problem away.
There are those of you who will say that pedophilia is not the same as depression or drug abuse. Yes and no, but the answer lies in treatment, not condemnation, confinement or euthanization. Ignoring the problem only exacerbates the harm that can be done.
Eh, I'm not so sure it's genetic. Where are you getting your information from?
I wondered about that too... what makes me angry is the organisations who put these beasts out into the communtiies again to live amongst us but the public arent told of their past... this really isnt on..
maybe.....but I can't believe that a pedophile can/will "maintain" control forever.
The analogy isn't that great...a young man CAN find a willing partner, and if not immediately, he can buy one just to slate his "urges and desires" until he does...if he's so inclined
a pedophile can't....none of their "partners" would ever be willing.
Sadly I think many get into trouble trying to prove to themselves that they can be with children without offending. And, they tell themselves their "partners" were willing. Also, groups that support pedophilia are working behind the scenes trying to say that parents deny their children by not letting them experiment in the way the pedophiles want. They are predators and without help, I do believe they will eventually act on the urges and desires. Keep in mind that it is often a family member who is doing this and many families try to shrug it off or it is kept a secret. I have seen it. The whole bunch are sick.
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Chemical castration, if that will take the "drive" out of them.
I think as sexual predators that will not work. They like the "power" of it, like with rape. They can use other "tools".
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the behavior should still be punished and a sex offender's registry could be established to keep tabs on them
I outprocessed the one that molested his own children for years and was being returned home at the highest level of expectation that he would reoffend. He was sitting there in a chair next to my next, all smiles talking about going home to his wife. If he were my husband, when he arrived home..............
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do you really think "intensive therapy" is going to change them?...and who admits their pedophilia urges?, unless they've already been convicted first...and then sentenced to take said therapy.
I saw one case where the person admitted it and went into therapy. It was going to be a long, tough road. Sadly, most people with sexual perversions have no desire to give up the rush that it brings them. They don't "change" but learn to "control". I think there is the possibility of learning to "control". Sadly, in the world now where everyone feels entitled to whatever makes them feel good despite what it may do to another, most won't be interested in "control".
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I wondered about that too... what makes me angry is the organisations who put these beasts out into the communtiies again to live amongst us but the public arent told of their past... this really isnt on..
They have a way of assessing the chances that they will reoffend. Those at the highest end need to be put away for good.
Many of the answers here are quite disturbing and display an astonishing level of ignorance.
There are those of you who will say that pedophilia is not the same as depression or drug abuse. Yes and no, but the answer lies in treatment, not condemnation, confinement or euthanization. Ignoring the problem only exacerbates the harm that can be done.
treatment?? what treatment...what treatment is there for someone who would devastate a young child's life just to satisfy their own immediate perverted desires?
Is it "ignorance" to believe that these people are a scourge on society?...a danger to our most vulnerable?
Yesss!!!!
I don't believe, at all, that anyone can be genetically predisposed to prey on children.
Even if they did come by this perversion through genetics...they should be put out of their misery...before they harm any little ones.
If they feel that desire, and just can't stop those feelings....even if they don't act on them, they should do society (and themselves) a big favor and [bow out].
Our little ones are much more important that a perverts desires, or even the (useless in my mind) attempts to change the way they think and who they are sexually attracted to....I believe if that perverted sexual attraction is in someone....there's NO changing it.
Child porn is an abomination...a sickening display of humanity gone bad...a pedophiles delight.
I think they if they feel the desire they have a moral duty not to bow out, unless they're a strong danger to society...to show a good example to kids on how to behave, to show that whatever demons we have in us do not determine who we are.
I agree about child porn being an abomination though.
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maybe.....but I can't believe that a pedophile can/will "maintain" control forever.
The analogy isn't that great...a young man CAN find a willing partner, and if not immediately, he can buy one just to slate his "urges and desires" until he does...if he's so inclined
a pedophile can't....none of their "partners" would ever be willing.
Human beings don't need sex...at least not all of us. I'm physically attracted to women, pretty strongly. I have no interest in love though. I generally don't have an interest in extremely warm, loving relationships. I like more casual ones. I'm not a pedophile, but right now you're communicating with someone who will probably be a virgin for life.
You just get used to it. You seem to want to euthanize people for what will oftentimes be just growing pains they'll get over.
They don't need partners. There's masturbation.
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treatment?? what treatment...what treatment is there for someone who would devastate a young child's life just to satisfy their own immediate perverted desires?
Is it "ignorance" to believe that these people are a scourge on society?...a danger to our most vulnerable?
I agree there's not much of a way of treatment for that. They have some programs for child abusers...but they're expensive and they often don't work. If someone just doesn't care about another human being enough...I'm not sure there is much that can change that. There are, however treatments for pedophilia. I know there are drugs that can lower libido, for example.
People who want pedophiles dead usually don't care about kids. They're just doing this thing humans sometimes do, that chimpanzees do, where we gang up on a random segment of society to cannibalize for our benefit. If they really cared about kids, all the orphanages would have been emptied before anyone gave birth, and then the orphanages of other nations would be emptied before anyone gave birth, or people would be giving like, half their income or more (depending on how much they make) to organizations that help children.
I expect people who insist innocent lives should be taken to protect children to be willing to give much of their own lives to protect children...and I don't see that very often.
I would not approve of Mordant's bracelet idea (where pedophiles who have a thought process that will lead to them becoming child molesters are killed by the bracelet) because that would be degrading to them, and because there would be no way to prove that it worked, so anyone who would wear it would be a fool.
If anyone would try to force me to wear such a bracelet, I hope I'd be patriotic and brave enough to go down shooting, to show children a good example of how to behave when bullies try to push someone to far...when they try to steal your life. I think it's important to strongly discourage that cannibalistic tendency of humanity. We've snuffed out most of it. Our ancestors used to even glorify it, and now we've realized it's wrong for them most part...but sometimes it just creeps back when we're not paying enough attention.
Now...if everyone were made to wear such a bracelet, that would be less degrading. If it were also somehow proven to everyone that it only killed people who would become child molesters, and everyone was shown proof...then I'd probably support it.
You have a mental weakness, just like pedophiles do, because of your comments. I see you as no less dangerous than a pedophile. However, both of you are my fellow humans, and I care about you because of that, and you haven't done anything wrong yet...so I have no real problem with you as a person. I do not dislike you. I just think you have a weakness, just like most of us. If you don't change that weakness, it'll probably cause no problems for society because you likely won't get into a position where it'll cause harm...but I wouldn't want you as a leader.
I don't know if pedophilia is a sexual orientation or not. I've read plenty of sources that make it seem like the attraction us unchangeable though. That strikes me as odd, because I don't know how such a gene would spread, but oh well. I don't know how homosexuality would spread either, and at least it seems to have.
Pedophelia is something highly disadvantageous and it's understandably discouraged...but that's as far as we should go unless a person has done a crime.
I do think all people with a strong continuous attraction to prepubescent children should get help with that though and tell someone about it, preferably some psychologist. It is dangerous.
Of course those are just arbitrary legal lines that have been drawn. My hypothetical teen is not incapable of informed consent the day before they turn 18, and then magically capable at midnight that night. The real problem is some 40 year old guy raping a 12 year old (or, worse, a 6 year old). The greater the age disparity and the younger the victim, the worse the harm and the greater the pathology involved.
Fixed that for you. Let's call it what it is, please. No one is "boinking" a 12 year old or 6 year old - they are raping them.
Fixed that for you. Let's call it what it is, please. No one is "boinking" a 12 year old or 6 year old - they are raping them.
Thank you. And also, let's remember that child porn is not just pictures or videos-- it is pictures and videos of rapes being committed.
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