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Old 03-10-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Houston area
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It's always in the back of my mind to be careful. Think about all the real life stories you hear. Two men broke into a house when a family was home. They raped the women after ransacking the house. Also, how many times are you hearing about women being abducted? There are men who think women are easy prey. It's also easier to grab a women's purse and run. It is harder to grab a man's wallet. Maybe criminals think that women don't generally fight back or they are weaker and can't hurt them.

I watch a lot of shows on ID. There was a story about two young women who went out one evening. They were confronted by a man in the parking lot with a gun. Both women stood there. One could have run and got help, but didn't. I don't remember all the details of what happened. One of them ended up dead and the other one barely alive. He had tried to kill her by placing her in the trunk of the car. He put a hose over the exhaust into the trunk.

I think it's just the horrible things that women know men are capable of doing to them.
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I am absolutely afraid to walk alone at night, and in daytime as well. I was nearly raped in broad daylight on a public beach in California when I was a 15 year old virgin. That changes your perspective a bit, for the rest of your life.

But that does not mean that I will not go somewhere alone, because that would mean giving up on life. But, when I am out or with someone, I constantly look over my shoulder to make sure no one is sneaking up on me. I am prepared to defend myself.

I was probably more protective of my daughter than she would have liked, but she was better prepared for the dangers of the world because of it.

And there are some places that I will not walk just because it's not safe for anyone, including men.
I'm sorry that happened to you... My mom was always overprotective of me growing up because she thought the world was this bad place.. She still seems scared of her own shadow at times. I don't know how I'm the exact opposite of her.
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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They do it because they have to. They do it because they have no choice. They do it because they are dead inside and realize that whatever happens happens. And they are the number one group of people who are sexually and physically assaulted by strangers.

I think you have no idea what you're talking about.
You don't have to prostitute and you don't have to rob men. Nor do you have to carjack a person or have to shoplift.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And let me make it clear that I am not a male feminist. If it were up to me no women would be in infantry roles in the military. I don't need to be a squad leader and listening to why women can't run towards gun fire but men can, why women can't do a trillion other things men do, yet somehow "they can."

I'm a former Marine that served in the Gulf War and had at times feared for my life over there. Albeit, I was safer over there than back in my own neighborhood in Milwaukee. I've been shot at and physically assaulted in Milwaukee.

I also carry a long vertical scar going up my abdomen from being shot by a white cop after I disarmed myself. Actually, he shot me multiple times but the abdomen wound was the most excruciating to recover from. I lost several organs. I have another permanent injury along with nerve damage due to another bullet that struck in a different location. The psychological impact from that particular injury in terms of sense reduced safety, imminent lose in battle coming, is big (but after roughly 6 years I'm finally coming out of that psychologyically--albeit I haven't fully) and I've only heard a professional boxer on video hint at the psychological struggle that takes place in overcoming an serious injury (because in my experience you doubt yourself, you always think you are going to lose before the fight ever starts, your injury is like another person and voice in your head constantly wherever you go.)

I don't have to worry about what TV says because I have been physically assaulted multiple times. And I can't imagine life without violence. I also have came to terms and accepted I will probably die a violent death.

I'm a black male. It is only between women's two ears where they get the impression they are attacked more then men. Particularly black men.

But even with me I always have to challenge my own thinking. Maybe life is much t as dangerous and violent as I think? Maybe this group of approaching guys will do me no harm?




The biggest difference culturally between men and women is not that men are free of fear, anger, lust, greed, various emotions. Those emotions are human experiences. Yes, men feel fear. The biggest difference is that men are given no excuse and are expected to function.

Now, contrary to what some men want to believe, there are some mentally tough women in this world. Some of them are police officers. And no, I'm not saying every female cop is mentally tougher than most people. What I am saying is that there are some that are.

I have a novice boxing background. A lot of boxing is psychological. Not unlike the Vietnam Vet that returns home to a quite, small, safe town but won't sit with his back towards others. So too, a lot of fighters never return to the ring mentally the same after a devestating lose.

Outside the ring this can hold true mentally for those that have been traumatized by an assault or bad car accident. Prior to that you may have been fearless and felt nearly invincible. Now all of a sudden you are more apprehensive. You flinch quicker. If you've been shot in the belly by a large round like me you remember the months of recover pain, severe pain, and you fear what a gun pointed at you can do, far greater than before you were shot. But this is all psychological.

Men feel fear and men feel pain and men can feel sadness too. Anything saying otherwise is stupid and juvenile.

So, notice, coach Freddie Roach speaks about what getting knocked out did to him and lots of fighters psychologically. More important is he does not say only women feel that kind of fear and vulnerability.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bTAeJIoJNPE
Must Watch! Freddie Roach on why KO loss devastated Ronda Rousey & his career but not Pacquiao


Part of my pet peeve with all of this is American society grossly underestimates the psychological impact and damage being done to black boys and young black men in their extremely violent neighborhoods. Some studies have shown that many in those areas suffer from PTSD at higher rates than American vets returning from Afghanistan and Iraq.

As for the Rio de Janeiro thing about gold jewelry. I probably would wear a gold chain, even as a mob of young men approach. I might try to avoid them. But either way I would have some fear. Nonetheless, like running towards machine gun fire I would still march on. I've been assaulted on the street enough times I'm like a battered wife. I'm used to it.
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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It's always in the back of my mind to be careful. Think about all the real life stories you hear. Two men broke into a house when a family was home. They raped the women after ransacking the house. Also, how many times are you hearing about women being abducted? There are men who think women are easy prey. It's also easier to grab a women's purse and run. It is harder to grab a man's wallet. Maybe criminals think that women don't generally fight back or they are weaker and can't hurt them.

I watch a lot of shows on ID. There was a story about two young women who went out one evening. They were confronted by a man in the parking lot with a gun. Both women stood there. One could have run and got help, but didn't. I don't remember all the details of what happened. One of them ended up dead and the other one barely alive. He had tried to kill her by placing her in the trunk of the car. He put a hose over the exhaust into the trunk.

I think it's just the horrible things that women know men are capable of doing to them.
Personally, I don't carry a wallet. My paper money is either folded in my pocket or in a money clip. I would probably use a leather wallet one day but only to use and put in my overcoat. For the foreseeable future I won't have a wallet. The things are unsightly. But that is a fashion preference.

Yeah, it is true there are men that attack women. Men seem to attack everyone: men, women, and children.

Men attack women on the streets far more than women attack men on the streets. Although, the reverse does happen.

In black Milwaukee I can tell you young black women by far physically attack other women young and old than young men do. My point with that is a woman might be looking at the 6 foot 4 inch black man that weighs 260 pounds, scared of him, thinking he might harm her (he might be a perfectly nice guy that is unlikely to attack anyone for no reason). Yet, she perceived no danger in the woman walking up to her. Yet, it is the woman that pulls her hair out of her head and beats her black and blue, puts her in the trunk of a car.

Back when I was in the Marines I witnessed with my own eyes about 4 black women in their 20s from New York City violently attack a black grandmother from Virginia Beach (she looked about age 60 maybe) with her grandchild by her side. All because the woman laughed when one of them dropped her icecream from her cone. I was taking a photo of the women standing with my black male Marine friends. Note: it was not us black males that physically assaulted that grandmother.

In Las Vegas I witnessed with my own eyes some black dude punching a Latina or white woman. It was night, so I could not make out if she was Latina or white, with some young black woman in a car cheering him on calling the other woman the B word. Then, after the guy stopped, the black woman smashed the woman into a metal gate between parked cars. Backed up. The speed forward in the car again smashing her at knee level.

It was not me, nor most men, but a woman.

And this is America. If you were in the UAE among Arab Muslims you would be safer. You could walk the streets at night safely.

Incidentally, do you know when the US infantry likes to march out and attack the enemy in raids? At zero dark thirty hours. In the black before the sun rises. Patrolling through enemy territory on some foreign land were American women will get raped, probably sodomized by sticks, as POWs, walking in forested areas you can hardly see in front of you. Yet, in the infinite wisdom of the Federal Government they put women in the infantry. Knowing well American women can't walk alone at night under street lights or at grocery stores. Yet they want to stick these women out in foreign lands against Muslim men in some more primitive country.

The Government failed to read this thread about the inferiority of women to men.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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Wait ... so because PROSTITUTES "aren't" afraid to do all this, then other women shouldn't be either??

That's some messed up "logic" dude.
Had nothing to do with my point. I was contrasting those women with myself. I'm male, a former Marine, have novice boxing background. Therefore, I should lack the humility to recognize a superior mental toughness in a woman or transsexual even (male-to-female) that lives a life on the streets, prostituting and hustling, correct? No. Those things empower me more to be less fearful in admitting some women are mentally tougher than I am.

And I'm not glamorizing immorality. I'm merely acknowledging that some immoral living people have incredible fearlessness. I don't have that. Ergo, I don't shoplifit (to afraid to), I don't steal other men's money (to afraid of the consequences that will come), I don't carjack people. If I were a woman I would be to afraid to constantly jump in and out of strange men's cars night after night, let alone for years.

So, these are case examples of women. Like case examples of women being fighter pilots. Or are women too afraid to fly jets but men are not? Or case examples of women skydivers, swimmers, cops, undercover cops, spies, shoplifters, murderers etc.

I'm pretty afraid to jump out of a plane. I would probably be terrified flying a fighter jet at x speed, but evidently there are women that are not.

And if all women had the same, equal, terror of being raped at night then their would be far fewer female prostitutes on the street corners at night. In ghettos no less. Plus, just look under "escorts" on Backpages, the number of American women prostituting themselves to male strangers is staggering. They have little fear. Because they no few men harm women. Men mostly violently assault other men. Ergo, why women set men's clothes on fire, key their cars, steal their money etc.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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I'm a woman and yes, I am. It's a fact that women are physically weaker than men and with all the news stories about attacks and rapes, yes, I'm very afraid. If I'm walking across a parking lot alone at night, I look around me and walk really fast to my car, hoping and hoping no one will approach and attack me.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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The only place I feel safe, walking around at night is Las Vegas. Guess, it's because so many people are out on the strip and downtown. I never felt afraid when I visited that great place. Crazy, but true!
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Old 03-10-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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The only place I feel safe, walking around at night is Las Vegas. Guess, it's because so many people are out on the strip and downtown. I never felt afraid when I visited that great place. Crazy, but true!
I feel more scared in isolated places rather then the city. I am terrified of the country. I feel safer in the city. When I meet people from small towns and they talk about being scared of the city it makes me laugh because I feel the exact opposite.
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Yeah.
Lots of people talk about lot of sh** till it happens to them or they've seen it happen to hundreds of people (as I have).

As a fighter and as someone who works in the ER and as someone who hangs out with cops and watches takedowns on a regular basis, I've seen that even if you know how to fight and can defend yourself, you're still probably going to get hurt in the process.

Yes, I should be able to walk down naked through every dark alley in every bad part of town. But common sense says this is a stupid idea.

No one says you have to take a man everywhere or restrict your activities or not be independent. You just have to be aware of the risks and keep your eyes open at all times.
I am not down playing the need to use common sense. I wear a lot of jewelry walking around my city. In certain situations I am placing myself at risk and would either take it off and conceal it or not wear it at all in going in to certains areas as I would be setting myself up for being a target.

Also basic common sense if someone pulls on gun on you or you are out numbered you should try your best to avoid escalting the problem.

I am not trying to say at all that getting out of these situations is easy and likely to end without serious injury.

This also why for example when out alone I am always aware of my surroudings and never drink or do drugs. It is foolish to assume that all people are going to have your best intentions in mind.

Also please note I live in city in Canada. It is extremly unlikely for someone to try and rob you in general and every less likely that they would have a fire arm/ gun. When robberies happen using fire arms/ guns they usually target banks, gas stations and jewerly stores. In general those situations are also very uncommon where I am from.
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: AZ
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I imagine every person kidnapped, assaulted and murdered thought it would never happen to them. I am amazed at how easily we have come to accept that women are routinely assaulted, disappear and there is no national outcry. Same with human trafficking. We are in a sad state.
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