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Old 10-17-2017, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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I agree with how far you've gone, but HER foolishness does not in any way reduce HIS responsibility.
I agree with you completely, and I'm sorry if I didn't make that clearer in my previous post. But my other point is that while the perpetrator is solely guilty for the assault, the woman in this case did things of her own volition that dramatically increased her risk. Hence, contributory negligence.

 
Old 10-17-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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I don't think anyone here is praising the man's high moral standards. But from the woman's point of view, if she can't remember whether or not she gave consent, then it's his word against hers.

And if she can't remember, than it wasn't informed consent. It doesn't let him off the hook at all.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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I would think you would have to claim some responsibility for putting yourself in harms way
I agree. She put herself in that situation.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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just because you can't remember consenting doesn't mean you didn't.
Yes, because most women who are going to consent to have sex with a man need to be drugged beforehand.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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How on earth does this make her responsible?
When she willingly went to a stranger's house, she consented.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Houston area
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When she willingly went to a stranger's house, she consented.
And this means men are animals. She's fair game if she comes to my house.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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When she willingly went to a stranger's house, she consented.

This is a mighty slippery slope, and it's what gets women subjugated in other countries. Hell...what am I talking about? In this country too.


You are saying that women don't have autonomy over their bodies. You are saying that women should not be deciding who they give their favors to, and you're blaming her for being assaulted, and you're saying she asked to be assaulted.


In some other countries, women aren't allowed out of their house alone, because otherwise, it's assumed "she was asking for it."


They can't go see a movie by themselves
They can't go to the grocery store by themselves
They can't drive cars
They can't even uncover their ****ing faces, otherwise, they're asking for it, and tempting men to sin....and that WOULD be the female's fault, for tempting the men to sin.


Sigh. This is sickening.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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For example a friend of a friend went to a bar, met a guy, went back to his house and drank what he gave her, was then claiming she was assaulted but can’t remember the whole night.
When you know there are horrible sexual predators out there, why would you go to a strangers house and also drink something he gave you, not knowing what’s in it. I would think you would have to claim some responsibility for putting yourself in harms way especially these days when there is so much evil out there.
It’s one think to be jumped when walking to your car and another thing to willing go back to a strangers house.

There is only ONE person responsible for rape and assault, THE OFFENDER.
STOP victim blaming
 
Old 10-17-2017, 01:08 PM
 
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I hadn't realized that someone entering into my home meant that they consented to whatever I choose to do to them. Once you walk through my front door, your body belongs to me. That's not weird and disturbing at all.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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I hadn't realized that someone entering into my home meant that they consented to whatever I choose to do to them. Once you walk through my front door, your body belongs to me. That's not weird and disturbing at all.

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