Are HS bullies sociopaths by then? (inability, depressed, syndrome, woman)

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Northern Maine Land Man

They are not sociopaths, just ill mannered louts who were not parented.

I agree.

These are two unrelated behaviors.

[ben Shunamit]

Originally Posted by greatblueheron

Exactly.

Now if you have a bully begin to maim or kill small animals, then there's an issue...

No question about it, harming small animals is verboten, but human beings? Who gives a ****?

[JONOV]

I often think of bullying as a sign of other things, not sociopathy.

When I think of a sociopath, I think of someone that isn't actually a bully. A bully bullies for emotional validation of one sort or another.

A sociopath doesn't need validation. What can his victim provide him?

[JONOV]

Originally Posted by ben Shunamit

No question about it, harming small animals is verboten, but human beings? Who gives a ****?

The behaviors are not the same.

If a sociopath lights a classmate on fire the same way he might light a cat on fire, they'll lock him up and throw away the key.

[ben Shunamit]

Originally Posted by JONOV

The behaviors are not the same.

If a sociopath lights a classmate on fire the same way he might light a cat on fire, they'll lock him up and throw away the key.

And if he beat a cat the same way he beat a classmate?

[TabulaRasa]

Again, nobody under 18 is going to receive an antisocial personality disorder (i.e. "sociopathy") diagnosis.

Personality disorders aren't diagnosed in those who aren't developmentally adults.

[Neptunepenguins]

This is pure opinion, but I think it really depends on the kind of bullying. The worse and more constant the bullying is the higher chances of the person being a sociopath. The guy that calls a guy childish names sometimes for cheating on his girlfriend is likely not a sociopath, but the one that constantly tortures a guy and goes out of his way to make his victim's life as miserable as possible is likely a sociopath.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by JONOV

The behaviors are not the same.

If a sociopath lights a classmate on fire the same way he might light a cat on fire, they'll lock him up and throw away the key.

If he can avoid prosecution he may reach adulthood.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Neptunepenguins

This is pure opinion, but I think it really depends on the kind of bullying. The worse and more constant the bullying is the higher chances of the person being a sociopath. The guy that calls a guy childish names sometimes for cheating on his girlfriend is likely not a sociopath, but the one that constantly tortures a guy and goes out of his way to make his victim's life as miserable as possible is likely a sociopath.

These are two separate and unrelated things.

The only link between them that I am aware of is that a sociopath may have likely been victimized by a bully.

[ryanms3030]

I knew one guy that I know for sure was a sociopath growing up. As we got older into middle school then high school he really started to scare me because I felt like he was the type of person that could kill me "just because" or he could kill anyone. He was a white suburban kid who ended up fulfilling his destiny being a career criminal. He became a pretty serious drug dealer in my area and basically was the only white guy running with a bunch of hispanic gangs and having a business relationship with them around there. But long story short is that I could told you he was a sociopath before I even knew what that word meant. I met him when we were 5 years old and he was already doing stuff like torturing and killing small animals at that point. He definitely didn't have a great family life but I think he was just an evil person from birth. So yes if someone is a sociopath I think they are well before they get to HS