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Old 04-21-2018, 07:10 PM
 
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I've noticed that there are some rather brilliant people in this Psych forum (not much of a surprise as CD has FOUR MILLION users), and I wonder if they would advise me? I posted this inquiry in another thread in February but I really didn't ask the right questions. I still may not, but everything I got back then was helpful, so here again are the course prerequisites:

26 hrs.:
5447 (4) Adv Cor Methods & Factor Analysis
5480 (4) Experimental Design
5485 (4) Psychometric & Item Resp
5490 (4) Computer Modeling
5496 (4) Qual Research
5353 (3) Seminar Cognitive Neuroscience
5356 (3) Seminar Cog & Cog Neuroscience

Looking at the course descriptions, really seems like a lot of math, rather than literary. Neuroscience seems more like medical school than just psychology. (That probably sounds rather stupid but I'm not going to pretend to a knowledge I don't know). The thing is, I want to study a science. Almost all my formal training is in the arts and I want to develop a different perspective.

I did this before, and I went to law school and studied business. I've never regretted it, since I learned a lot, versus knowing nothing which was the way I was when I started. The people I met, the professors and fellow students, provided such a rich experience and it was worth every penny, just to interact with them. I was not the greatest but I certainly enjoyed it.

Your thoughts? Wonder if I can hack the math.

PS: I've already taken a Qualitative Research course. The Quantitative one is the scary one w/r/t math, I believe!! The Seminars are probably doable. And the designation "Computer Modeling" doesn't scare me. But the first three on the list--Yikes!!

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Old 04-21-2018, 07:31 PM
 
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Article on Neuroscience (not just a branch of biology):
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/248680.php

My special subfield:
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Cognitive neuroscience - the study of higher cognitive functions that exist in humans, and their underlying neural basis. Cognitive neuroscience draws from linguistics, psychology, and cognitive science. Cognitive neuroscientists can take two broad directions: behavioral/experimental or computational/modeling, the aim being to understand the nature of cognition from a neural point of view.
The "experimental" part threw me at first. I'm not going to participate in anything that requires experimenting on animals, but luckily my university doesn't have that kind of lab here.

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Old 04-21-2018, 08:13 PM
 
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I've noticed that there are some rather brilliant people in this Psych forum (not much of a surprise as CD has FOUR MILLION users), and I wonder if they would advise me? I posted this inquiry in another thread in February but I really didn't ask the right questions. I still may not, but everything I got back then was helpful, so here again are the course prerequisites:

26 hrs.:
5447 (4) Adv Cor Methods & Factor Analysis
5480 (4) Experimental Design
5485 (4) Psychometric & Item Resp
5490 (4) Computer Modeling
5496 (4) Qual Research
5353 (3) Seminar Cognitive Neuroscience
5356 (3) Seminar Cog & Cog Neuroscience

Looking at the course descriptions, really seems like a lot of math, rather than literary. Neuroscience seems more like medical school than just psychology. (That probably sounds rather stupid but I'm not going to pretend to a knowledge I don't know). The thing is, I want to study a science. Almost all my formal training is in the arts and I want to develop a different perspective.

I did this before, and I went to law school and studied business. I've never regretted it, since I learned a lot, versus knowing nothing which was the way I was when I started. The people I met, the professors and fellow students, provided such a rich experience and it was worth every penny, just to interact with them. I was not the greatest but I certainly enjoyed it.

Your thoughts? Wonder if I can hack the math.

PS: I've already taken a Qualitative Research course. The Quantitative one is the scary one w/r/t math, I believe!! The Seminars are probably doable. And the designation "Computer Modeling" doesn't scare me. But the first three on the list--Yikes!!
There is a lot of math in psychology also.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:16 PM
 
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Article on Neuroscience (not just a branch of biology):
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/248680.php

My special subfield:

The "experimental" part threw me at first. I'm not going to participate in anything that requires experimenting on animals, but luckily my university doesn't have that kind of lab here.
You can do experiments on human subjects using brain imaging. Not always necessary to destroy parts of the brain anymore.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:25 PM
 
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You can do experiments on human subjects using brain imaging. Not always necessary to destroy parts of the brain anymore.
Oh, that's that fMRI.

And this would tie in with my training in music:

Cognitive neuroscience of music
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogn...ience_of_music

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This strong association between musician status and gray matter differences supports the notion that musicians' brains show use-dependent structural changes.[56] Due to the distinct differences in several brain regions, it is unlikely that these differences are innate but rather due to the long-term acquisition and repetitive rehearsal of musical skills.
I won't not be able to do this. What a potential train wreck! Oh well!!

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Old 04-21-2018, 09:31 PM
 
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The music connection is not one to be laughed at with cognitive abilities. I have a relative with Alzheimer's, so I find these types of articles fascinating: https://www.alzheimers.net/2014-07-2...ntia-patients/
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Old 04-23-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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I've noticed that there are some rather brilliant people in this Psych forum (not much of a surprise as CD has FOUR MILLION users), and I wonder if they would advise me? I posted this inquiry in another thread in February but I really didn't ask the right questions. I still may not, but everything I got back then was helpful, so here again are the course prerequisites:

26 hrs.:
5447 (4) Adv Cor Methods & Factor Analysis
5480 (4) Experimental Design
5485 (4) Psychometric & Item Resp
5490 (4) Computer Modeling
5496 (4) Qual Research
5353 (3) Seminar Cognitive Neuroscience
5356 (3) Seminar Cog & Cog Neuroscience

Looking at the course descriptions, really seems like a lot of math, rather than literary. Neuroscience seems more like medical school than just psychology. (That probably sounds rather stupid but I'm not going to pretend to a knowledge I don't know). The thing is, I want to study a science. Almost all my formal training is in the arts and I want to develop a different perspective.

I did this before, and I went to law school and studied business. I've never regretted it, since I learned a lot, versus knowing nothing which was the way I was when I started. The people I met, the professors and fellow students, provided such a rich experience and it was worth every penny, just to interact with them. I was not the greatest but I certainly enjoyed it.

Your thoughts? Wonder if I can hack the math.

PS: I've already taken a Qualitative Research course. The Quantitative one is the scary one w/r/t math, I believe!! The Seminars are probably doable. And the designation "Computer Modeling" doesn't scare me. But the first three on the list--Yikes!!
You sound like a professional student rather than someone who wants to master or gain a full understanding of the human condition.
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Old 04-23-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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You sound like a professional student rather than someone who wants to master or gain a full understanding of the human condition.
I don't consider the phrase "professional student" to be pejorative, but I'm a violin and piano teacher, business owner, and author.
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Old 04-23-2018, 09:39 PM
 
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WoW, never used your law degree? Did you get aid or assistance for law school?

Otherwise, oh my, your loans must have been HUGE for all that schooling
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:09 AM
 
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WoW, never used your law degree? Did you get aid or assistance for law school?

Otherwise, oh my, your loans must have been HUGE for all that schooling
I never, here or elsewhere, indicated I have a law degree. I went to law school, three different universities actually, but didn't finish. Didn't flunk out just didn't want to spend 80 hours a week, writing billing every 10 minutes. Lots of attorneys make 100K/year but most don't, I think it's safe to say. Studies of job happiness indicate that legal workers are somewhere near the least happy and musicians, the most. Depends on how much tedium you can endure.

I've never paid for school; I've always gotten scholarships or assistantships. Otherwise I wouldn't go. The benefits in a doctoral program with a TA are substantial: tuition waiver, living expenses ($300/week) and insurance, including dental.

When I finish the EdD in Educational Technology, which is really in support of online business interests, I'm applying for a PhD program in Cognitive Neuroscience. I'm more committed to doing this than ever. I've begun reading in the area of cognitive neuroscience, specifically how it relates to string pedagogy.

I'd attempt a doctorate in music but there's a problem: after chemo for Stage 1 ovarian cancer I was diagnosed with degenerative osteoarthritis. I have two fingers with joint damage (see photos, below) and the admonition is "no repetitive motions." Not compatible with the many hours of violin, viola and piano playing required for a music degree.

It has not been an easy adjustment. But one has to look toward the future. Unless, of course, the egomaniac in the Whitehouse destroys the planet in a nuclear winter. One has to proceed as if that won't happen, though it very well might.

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