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Old 09-04-2018, 10:44 PM
 
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I get the sense from watching the video multiple times that he handles his 'flock' the same way

Made me think of this classic sketch by Damon Wayans and Jim Carrey on In Living Color.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2xXXSFE-NU

 
Old 09-05-2018, 01:59 AM
 
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Most posters who think it's appropriate for the Pastor to grope Ariana Grande don't have daughters, grand daughters, or nieces. The guy is a pervert and most likely does it to all his younger flock.
 
Old 09-05-2018, 06:02 AM
 
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Most posters who think it's appropriate for the Pastor to grope Ariana Grande don't have daughters, grand daughters, or nieces. The guy is a pervert and most likely does it to all his younger flock.
He knew the cameras were filming them. If his flock doesn't scatter after seeing that, they're crazy. Imagine what he gets away with in private.
 
Old 09-05-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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He is a stupid pervert. Pervert by nature. Stupid because he knew he was being filmed.
filmed and in front of a crowd of onlookers!
 
Old 09-05-2018, 07:06 AM
 
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My feeling is that if this guy is this comfortable and confident being grabby with cameras on him, he's been doing this for quite some time now, to God knows how many cute sheep in his congregation, without repercussions. although the cameras, who knows how much more grabby.
This is probably the case. He's been hugging too many women, and not doing the churchy sideways "air hug" thing, either.

I'm older than he is, but I learned when I was a teenager not to screw with people's names unless you intend to screw with them.
 
Old 09-05-2018, 07:13 AM
 
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Grande makes a living singing sex-tinged songs while dancing in an alluring manner wearing next to nothing. Why is it so surprising when a man treats her like a sex doll?
With him being a pastor in the pulpit during a religious event, if anything, he should have been keeping his distance from her.

Her dress was inappropriate, her song was inappropriate. If he were in keeping with his own position as a pastor, there was zero reason for him to touch her, no reason for any comment beyond a polite "Thank you."
 
Old 09-05-2018, 07:27 AM
 
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You could tell she was uncomfortable, though she held it together well. He was being a creep.


You know when a touch is accidental or not. I've been touched on accident, and I've had been grabbed/felt up on purpose. If this was an accident, due to height difference, he could have just adjusted his hand placement.
 
Old 09-05-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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You know when a touch is accidental or not. I've been touched on accident, and I've had been grabbed/felt up on purpose. If this was an accident, due to height difference, he could have just adjusted his hand placement.
He did adjust his hand placement.

He got a better grip on her breast. Shifted it twice.
 
Old 09-05-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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She should have "accidentally" stomped on his foot with her stilettos. I would have, if I were her. But I'm not her. At 6'3" and 172 lbs. I look like someone who just might possibly offer some resistance, and this wouldn't have happened to me in the first place. But he knew she was too small, too professional and too smart to fight back in public. I would have knocked him into the next county.

That doesn't mean big girls can't be attacked. I was negotiating a gig once (I've done a bit of contracting), sitting in this club owner's office. He got up and walked to my side of the desk and attempted to kiss me. I jumped up and ran out of there. If I had been a small woman, he might have been able to stop me. It was so totally unexpected. And boy was I mad. I wanted to hurt him. I'm pretty sure he did this to lots of women.

It doesn't excuse the behavior, but to be honest, I thought her dress was inappropriate, too. But a lot of young women dress provocatively. Isn't that their right, however? I have noticed myself, noticing this and thinking, isn't it perhaps jealousy on my part, or puritanism?
 
Old 09-05-2018, 09:54 AM
 
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Do you think he knew what he was doing, or was just an unfortunate missundestanding? What about the comment about she sounding like a Mexican dish? Any psychological lessons with coud learn from this incident?
1. He's a pervert and a sicko.
2. Why she didn't give him an elbow to the ribs is beyond me.
3. Psychological lessons? He's a liar, you win the lottery if you can guess how many hundreds of women he's fondled or worse. Pastorship is often license to do things normal people wouldn't do. I notice Bill Clinton and Jessie Jackson didn't jump up to defend her!!
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