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Old 12-16-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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I would say 1 and 4 are true. Guys tend to be more detail oriented, particularly with money and especially if supporting a wife. We're definitely more visual as well. As for dating, I've been accused my whole life of being too selective, so thats my experience.
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Old 12-18-2019, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I'm just so tired, after years here, of these desperate attempts to come up with some Unified Theory of Women are This and Men are That to explain all the things. You can't. There will always be such a vast number of living, breathing exceptions that your rules become freaking pointless. I don't understand the obsession. You aren't gonna hack the system like this. Human beings are not a bunch of robots, or clones, or creatures running on all instinct and no reason.

1. Guys being visual. Nope. What I look for in music is performance art. GWAR is my favorite band, though I'm not that into metal. What I go for in movies, is visual interest. I love a pretty movie like nothing else. I saw Avatar half a dozen times in the theater and it wasn't for the gripping plot. I love most of Guillermo del Toro's films for the same reason. They are pretty. In an art museum, I see more women than men. I love comics, just not superhero comics. I don't need to have a hero to look up to or model my behavior and I find them far too predictable and generally uninteresting.

Guys might be somewhat more motivated by appearances in partner selection, but even that is questionable. Their tastes vary a lot, and I know men who are quite capable of being super attracted to a woman that the next guy wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole (all pole jokes of any length aside.) I know women who enjoy firefighter bodies, or beards, or whatever. People have things that they like about other people. Some of those things are observable with the eyes.

The main difference I know of isn't so much that men are enjoying the view more than women, it comes down to where the decision to have sex occurs. Men have less risk in making that choice, and can make it more freely for so many reasons. So sure, a guy can be like, "She's hot, I'd hit it!" A woman should probably give it a bit more consideration than that, since the stakes are higher for us, and if anything bad happens, it WILL be considered to be entirely our fault, by at least plenty of people. It's only sane and right that a guy has to bring more to the table than looks, and that in order to get more important traits in a partner, a woman might be willing to compromise in that department.

As for porn, I also question if that is a matter of men simply being "more visual." When something is made for and marketed for men, it would probably appeal more to men. There are plenty of sexy visuals in other kinds of movies that are pretty clearly aimed at women. Believe it or not, I know a LOT of women who enjoy porn. Some admit it freely...some not so much. PornHub did a study a couple of years ago that revealed that 25% of their traffic was from women. Which is far less than the 75% of audience from guys but still a significant figure. Personally, I'm not a fan, but that's mostly because I've got a HIGHLY effective imagination, and I find porn to be cumbersome and inefficient in comparison. I can call up a mental "video" that has precisely what I want and lasts exactly as long as I need to, with zero effort whatsoever. Can I do that online? No. Any visual I want is literally just on the inside of my eyelids. And I don't seem to think in terms of projecting myself into the relatable shoes of a proxy, like "identifying with" the main character of anything, which is something I think that porn relies pretty heavily on.

2. Women might be more selective. But it's on a multifaceted process with appearances being only one factor and possibly not the most important, depending on the individual. Being a woman dating a man is more dangerous, than being a man dating a woman. Go look up stats on women murdered by current or former male intimate partners, compared to men murdered by current or former female intimate partners if you struggle to understand why we might be "selective." Obviously men love to try and twist this to mean that since we get involved with men who wind up killing us sometimes, we are not selective in the right way or selective enough. No, it's more like we are as selective as can be and yet we can be fooled, and yet men harm us anyways. Ya'll are dangerous.

3. Already been answered. In detail. Sometimes by women. Imagine that.

4. Are you joking? I can cost-benefit analyze and spreadsheet you into next week, scooter. Do not try me. I run analytics on tax code FOR FUN. And to the poster who smugly said that yes, men buy tools because they are useful! And blouses are not! OK, genius how about you explain why my fiance (a man) has bought tens of thousands of little plastic Pathfinder tabletop roleplaying game figures when he hasn't been able to get an actual game together in over a decade? Or all the Rick & Morty toys? Please enlighten me about how very useful those are. I know men who collect pinball machines, LEGO sets, and a host of other things. I know plenty of men who make stupid and impulsive financial decisions. I've always been the person handling financial matters in my household, why...because I'm damn good at it.

Bottom line, the more you and others try to assert some kind of rules about how this works or that works about men or women, the more you are gonna corner yourself in your own misinformed, limited little box and utterly fail to understand the people around you, who, after all, are individuals and don't give a hoot about your need for them to conform to your silly stereotypes. I mean you can live like that, but I have no idea why you would want to.
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Old 12-19-2019, 02:16 PM
 
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I hear about #1 and #2 a lot. I don't know about #3, might be half and half from what I've seen. I think for #4, guys are more selective about what they buy and pour their money into. They might spend a lot of their money on one thing while I think girls tend to spread their spending through multiple categories.

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How true are the following differences between men and women?

1. Guys are more visual: Does this mean that guys like art and architecture more while girls like music more? Or that when watching movies, guys pay attention to the action and scenery while girls pay attention to the music and sound effects? Or that guys like graphic novels while girls are fine with reading Pride and Prejudice without any illustrations?

2. Girls are more selective than guys when choosing a date: Does this mean that girls are choosy about a guy’s appearance, while guys don’t care as much about a girl’s appearance? That’s certainly true for me--I never get why girls wear makeup, curl their hair. We guys are not very selective when choosing a date and really don’t care about your appearance.

Doesn't this contradict number 1 where guys are more visual? I never thought that guys wouldn't care about a woman's appearance but it does seem common that most guys don't like a lot of makeup on women.

3. Girls are more detail oriented: Does this mean that women are more likely to be perfectionistic than men? But if this was true, then women would make better surgeons than men--when in fact most surgeons are men.

4. Guys are more frugal and financially minded: Women will go into a store and come back with lots of impulse purchases while guys will go into the store and come back with only what they need. When buying a house, women will be a bit more impulsive, and buy it if it looks good, whereas guys are more cautious, thinking like an accountant, making spreadsheets and cost benefit analyses.
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Old 12-25-2019, 01:41 AM
 
Location: London
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Guys are more visual: About equal for my husband and me.

2. Girls are more selective than guys when choosing a date: Here, too, about the same.

3. Girls are more detail oriented: HAHAHA no. He freaked out on me the other day because I didn't notice his new shoes.

4. Guys are more frugal and financially minded: Again, lmao no. He came home from the pet store the other day with a bunch of "proud yorkie owner" trinkets and decor for himself, when all we needed was a new Kong for our dog.
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Old 12-25-2019, 06:26 AM
 
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People here are saying that guys care more about their mate's appearance while girls care more about a guy's character.

Not true.

So many girls want a guy who is at least 5 inches taller than them because they like wearing high heels. If this isn't being picky about appearance, I don't what is.

And guys don't care that much about a woman's character? That is insulting. You're saying that most guys are so superficial that they would date a foul-mouthed, ill-tempered, lazy woman as long as she has the body of a supermodel. So women can act like b**tches and guys don't care as long as she looks good. 100% false.

Truth is, men and women both care about their mate's appearance and character equally (in general--don't just single out one superficial guy and assume all guys are like that). They just look for different aspects of appearance and character. Women want tall, ripped men, guys want slim, curvy women. Women want decisive, bold men, men want nurturing, submissive, women. End of discussion.
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Old 12-25-2019, 08:01 AM
 
Location: West Seattle
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About #1, I've always perceived that women at least care more about the visuals of their environments. They're more likely to move around the furniture and pick wallpaper and coordinating colors until everything is just right, and (according to statistics) they travel and enjoy nature areas more than men.

I think the reason for the movie thing is that men tend to pay more attention to inanimate objects and women more to people and animals.
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Old 12-25-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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How true are the following differences between men and women?

1. Guys are more visual: Does this mean that guys like art and architecture more while girls like music more? Or that when watching movies, guys pay attention to the action and scenery while girls pay attention to the music and sound effects? Or that guys like graphic novels while girls are fine with reading Pride and Prejudice without any illustrations?

2. Girls are more selective than guys when choosing a date: Does this mean that girls are choosy about a guy’s appearance, while guys don’t care as much about a girl’s appearance? That’s certainly true for me--I never get why girls wear makeup, curl their hair. We guys are not very selective when choosing a date and really don’t care about your appearance.

3. Girls are more detail oriented: Does this mean that women are more likely to be perfectionistic than men? But if this was true, then women would make better surgeons than men--when in fact most surgeons are men.

4. Guys are more frugal and financially minded: Women will go into a store and come back with lots of impulse purchases while guys will go into the store and come back with only what they need. When buying a house, women will be a bit more impulsive, and buy it if it looks good, whereas guys are more cautious, thinking like an accountant, making spreadsheets and cost benefit analyses.
The only difference I see between men and women that seems to hold true in most situations is that women get more upset if their events (weddings, parties, trips, holidays, etc.) don't go exactly according to plan while most guys tend to shrug things like that off as just part of life.
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Old 12-25-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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About #1, I've always perceived that women at least care more about the visuals of their environments. They're more likely to move around the furniture and pick wallpaper and coordinating colors until everything is just right, and (according to statistics) they travel and enjoy nature areas more than men.

I think the reason for the movie thing is that men tend to pay more attention to inanimate objects and women more to people and animals.
Ain't that true. I'm too lazy to even decorate my room at all.

"Women travel and enjoy nature more than men." Not so sure about that. Guys love hunting. Guys love mountain biking, four wheeling, rock climbing. All these are done in nature.
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