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There's a different generation of men out there; we are quite capable of cooking or cleaning (or hiring someone to do it for us). We marry later, if at all (and it sure isn't about someone to clean, lol); and most of us grew up with moms who worked and/or female friends and colleagues who are successful in the workplace. This is simply reducing relationships to outdated stereotypes; and while it may apply to men over 60, it doesn't apply to most of us. That said, women of that age group are often lonely and looking for companionship as well.
Thankfully, companionship can be many things besides marriage! After getting divorced there's no way I'd comingle my finances with anyone...and that's without the complications of kids to worry about. I can get everything I need from a man without marriage and without battling the often unspoken expectations of marriage.
Interesting to me is how even slightly older men want someone to cook and clean for them when they're married but are content to live like pigs and eat fast food once divorced...marriage (and divorce) changes people!
They may report that they are but I'm not buying it, at least based on women I know.
How do you know? How to you know they are completely honest with you? Ironically, the major study reported that women reported they were happy when their spouses or other people were in the room, but drastically changed their story when they were alone. Single, childless women also live longest.
Interesting to me is how even slightly older men want someone to cook and clean for them when they're married but are content to live like pigs and eat fast food once divorced...marriage (and divorce) changes people!
To speak of men as if we are all 'living like pigs' and 'eating fast food', lol (while we are single) is as ludicrous and wrongfully stereotypical as suggesting all women enjoy cleaning and it's in their genes.
Bottom line - most people (men and women) would rather hire a cleaning service than do it themselves. Absolutely, most of us don't want to clean (who enjoys it); but we all have. It's part of being an adult (along with other things we don't like doing), not part of being a specific gender. To suggest otherwise as a whole (in either direction) is simply perpetuating antiquated stereotypes (and not seeing the world as it is today among younger generations i.e. forties and younger).
To speak of men as if we are all 'living like pigs' and 'eating fast food', lol (while we are single) is as ludicrous and wrongfully stereotypical as suggesting all women enjoy cleaning and it's in their genes.
Bottom line - most people (men and women) would rather hire a cleaning service than do it themselves. Absolutely, most of us don't want to clean (who enjoys it); but we all have. It's part of being an adult (along with other things we don't like doing), not part of being a specific gender. To suggest otherwise as a whole (in either direction) is simply perpetuating antiquated stereotypes (and not seeing the world as it is today among younger generations i.e. forties and younger).
To speak of men as if we are all 'living like pigs' and 'eating fast food', lol (while we are single) is as ludicrous and wrongfully stereotypical as suggesting all women enjoy cleaning and it's in their genes.
Bottom line - most people (men and women) would rather hire a cleaning service than do it themselves. Absolutely, most of us don't want to clean (who enjoys it); but we all have. It's part of being an adult (along with other things we don't like doing), not part of being a specific gender. To suggest otherwise as a whole (in either direction) is simply perpetuating antiquated stereotypes (and not seeing the world as it is today among younger generations i.e. forties and younger).
Every, single study done has shown that women to the lion's share of the housework after they get married - even women who work full-time and just as many hours outside the home as their husbands. In fact, one study says men actually add MORE work for women. So there is kind of evidence to support what she's saying. Maybe not that bad, but generally the responsibility falls on the wife.
Every, single study done has shown that women to the lion's share of the housework after they get married - even women who work full-time and just as many hours outside the home as their husbands. In fact, one study says men actually add MORE work for women. So there is kind of evidence to support what she's saying. Maybe not that bad, but generally the responsibility falls on the wife.
Very true...men who may have done a fair amount for themselves when single don't necessarily keep doing all that once married. There can be expectations that women/wives are just "supposed" to do that stuff or will want to do that stuff for the both of them.
Women can certainly refuse, but it ends up being the person who cares most about keeping things clean or wanting a hot meal that ends up putting in the time and effort. If a guy doesn't care that all his dirty clothes pile up on the floor and thinks pizza is the best possible meal, he won't pick up stuff or cook anything.
I guess the key then is for women to just care less than men do about domestic duties and what other might think of them regarding a messy house, etc., etc.
I guess the key then is for women to just care less than men do about domestic duties and what other might think of them regarding a messy house, etc., etc.
Or for men to just grow up, live like an adult, and do their share.
Or for men to just grow up, live like an adult, and do their share.
I don’t see how housework is not a man thing? I change oil, change tires, take out trash, cut the yard, fix the toilet and sinks, and pay every bill.
I don’t see how housework is not a man thing? I change oil, change tires, take out trash, cut the yard, fix the toilet and sinks, and pay every bill.
Bob ... apparently you are all grow'd up. Good job!
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