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Old 02-07-2020, 08:19 AM
 
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True...and not so true. Nicotine addicts (with no other addictions) aren't often homeless, strung out with the shakes, completely estranged from families, thieving or prostituting themselves to get a fix, unable to hold down a job, or have lost custody of their kids, etc. People can also be addicted to caffeine and drink it for energy or for relaxation..again, not exactly the same thing. Not every drug is the same in its effects or its severity.
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Quitting smoking is no where near quitting heroin (or caffeine lol) no clue why anyone would even put them in the same category.
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Old 02-07-2020, 08:25 AM
 
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Quitting smoking is no where near quitting heroin (or caffeine lol) no clue why anyone would even put them in the same category.
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/1...o-quit-smoking

“From a scientific standpoint, nicotine is just as hard, or harder, to quit than heroin … but people don't recognize that," said Dr. Neil Benowitz, a nicotine researcher at the University of California, San Francisco.”
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:53 AM
 
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https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/1...o-quit-smoking

“From a scientific standpoint, nicotine is just as hard, or harder, to quit than heroin … but people don't recognize that," said Dr. Neil Benowitz, a nicotine researcher at the University of California, San Francisco.”

I can totally get that it's as difficult to quit as heroin. However, heroin, being illegal, causes devastation that legal cigarettes do not.
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:53 AM
 
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Quitting smoking is no where near quitting heroin (or caffeine lol) no clue why anyone would even put them in the same category.
I have never heard anyone who did both say that.
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Old 02-07-2020, 10:35 AM
 
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I can totally get that it's as difficult to quit as heroin. However, heroin, being illegal, causes devastation that legal cigarettes do not.
Yes I understand that.
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Old 02-07-2020, 04:10 PM
 
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Have you talked to a doctor? There are very effective anti-anxiety meds out there. You don't have to take them forever, but it can get you over the hump.

I am 50+ pack year smoker and take several meds forever to treat incurable severe mental disorder called bi-polar. I have to trade off if you will the benefits of mental stabiity over lung cancer for example. They is no way I want to go through mania or depression again. It is dangerous. destructive and incredibly painful (not that cancer wouldn't be).

So it will seem that lung cancer to some would be worse than bi-polar but it really is a rock and a hard place kind of situation. And to date I have no idea how I can have both stability and physical health.
Neither do my doctors or shrink.

Rock and a hard place sums it up.
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Old 02-07-2020, 04:13 PM
 
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32% of people who try tobacco get addicted. 8% of people who try heroine get addicted.
Source: book "The Science of Addiction".
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:19 PM
 
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https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/1...o-quit-smoking

“From a scientific standpoint, nicotine is just as hard, or harder, to quit than heroin … but people don't recognize that," said Dr. Neil Benowitz, a nicotine researcher at the University of California, San Francisco.”
Ease of quitting varies from person to person. Different people get addicted to different things and to different degrees.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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When I smoked, I was never in denial. I hated myself for smoking. I felt weak--and yes, addicted. Which led me to finally quitting.

I decided that I was stronger than that little tube of tobacco.

Feels so darn good to be free of it.

It took a smoking cessation program to partner with to kick the habit.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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You can show car drivers the most gruesome photo's of near-fatal car accidents, those even left as quadriplegics, or brain dead as a result of it, and it's not going to get people to give up that potentially dangerous addiction to owning/driving a car. "Maybe I'll be lucky and it won't ever happen to me."

The same works with cancer scare tactics.

What really scares me, as a smoker, is what become of all those who posted here with advice, research studies, and all smokers quit their addiction. They have to feed their ego addictions some way or another, and?
This is true, in part.

Replacing one habit with another is often the case...but...I'm now "addicted" to exercise and healthy eating.

I'm hooked on both and believe I like myself a whole lot more.

I look and smell better--and my smoker's cough and stink are long gone.
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