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Old 05-02-2020, 03:54 AM
 
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Last two sentences are completely wrong, I couldn't disagree more..
Well here they are.

We just dont want to see PDA.

Usually guys that are super homophobic, are scared theyre going to try it.
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The first is my own observation..So you are a straight man and you enjoy warching gay men make out, kiss,.hold hands etc?

Okay.

The second I dont need to qualify because studies have proven it.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...-gay-male-porn

I thought everyone knew this!
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Old 05-02-2020, 04:00 AM
 
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This is a bizarre attempt to excuse pedophilia and blame the church by saying they are "simply gay men attracted to young boys."

Huh?

By definition of the act itself, they are indeed pedophiles.

Grown men and women attracted to children are pedophiles. Do I really need to say this????


Even your last sentence solidifies the dangers and consequences of young children being abused by, as you put it "simply gay men attracted to young males"

"(As far as I know homosexuality is biological or ingrained at a very early age)"
I didnt say YOUNG CHILDREN

I said young males, like the ages of 14-16.

Which approaches the legal age of consent in some parts of the world.
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Old 05-02-2020, 06:27 AM
 
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I think I either misunderstood something or you expressed something false - are you saying that women in general choose more masculine men because they think women are weak? cause I don't believe that to be true at all.
I think women that lose interest in a man just because he is bisexual are just insecure. Of course it's a different case if the man is closeted bisexual, because then the maturity of the person comes into question and it becomes more complex.
Or maybe because a straight woman wants a straight man.?
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Old 05-02-2020, 07:43 AM
 
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This is purely anecdotal but I've been thinking about how it may be true. Talking to men/women I know in real life and reading peoples responses on sexuality, it seems that when straight people of gender are asked about fantasies with the same gender, men express disgust and women seem to be mostly neutral about it.

Is there an evolutionary reason for this or is it just indoctrination? Is the masculinity of men seen as more fragile and thus they instinctively feel disgust.
I don't know if there is anything scientific as to the reasoning, but I do think hetero men are more repulsed than hetero women. Then again I do know a decent amount of women who if not repulsed, have zero interest in homo women.
They know most are not "lipstick lesbians" as depicted in porn, rather they look like Rosie O'Donnell.

Also, I have heard some women say (including ones not repulsed by homo women) they are repulsed by the thought of homo men.
I assume this means envisioning them in the act of sex, not the actual men or women themselves as people.


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Old 05-02-2020, 08:21 AM
 
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This is a bizarre attempt to excuse pedophilia and blame the church by saying they are "simply gay men attracted to young boys."

Huh?

By definition of the act itself, they are indeed pedophiles.

Grown men and women attracted to children are pedophiles. Do I really need to say this????


Even your last sentence solidifies the dangers and consequences of young children being abused by, as you put it "simply gay men attracted to young males"

"(As far as I know homosexuality is biological or ingrained at a very early age)"
I have not read through the thread, but did see your post question by another poster.

While I do suspect most homos were born that way, I know of at least two women who felt they became homo, because at least one knew she was hetero.

She was a coworker and told me this on a very slow night shift. She told me a story about complete attraction to guys and never even a thought about other women.
Then she was violently raped on a date.
While that alone did not cause her to become homo, she could not be alone with a man, and any time a man made an advancement (no matter how gentile or understanding) she could not get beyond the fear.

As you might imagine she saw psychologists, and still believed she was hetero, because she found men attractive.
But could not get beyond the brutality of the rape. She said that because she was still young she wanted to have sex, she kept putting herself out there, but only in groups. Yet when a guy would even want to give her a hug/kiss goodnight, she was too frightened.

Long story short, she said she got very drunk one night hoping to loosen up as she put it. She and her friends didn't find any interesting guys, so a friend of a friend offered to drive her home. Apparently the girl was homo, seduced her, and her drunkenness allowed it to happen.

Again as she put it, she still believed she was a hetero, but although she didn't like the idea of sex with another women, she enjoyed the "release" that night. That woman kept enticing her and it was always sex one way, as she was allowing her to do XYZ, but not reciprocating. However she never had any fear with this woman.
So she made another attempt with a guy she was really attracted to, but again the fear paralyzed her. So from that point on she started to just have sex with women, and now considers herself homo rather than hetero.

That story is obviously not the norm for most, but it is at least one example I am aware of where the person was hetero, but became homo.

As to the pedo comment with hetero vs. homo, I suspect pedos can come in any stripe. However from a common way of looking at it, I would assume male homos would be more attracted to boys and male heteros attracted to girls.
With female pedos the same.
Needless to say they are the scourge of society as they prey upon children, and need to be locked away for life, or at chemically castrated.



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Old 05-02-2020, 08:27 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Sometimes psychological phenomena have indirect evolutionary benefits. Here's my theory for why this difference exists.

Women seem to usually lose interest in a man quickly when they find out that he has had homosexual experiences --- this is probably because a gay or bisexual man is seen as more feminine, and therefore weak, and therefore not a good provider for the woman. Straight men usually aren't turned off at all if a woman has had sex with other women.

Anyway, this means straight men have a strong incentive to not "look gay". My theory is that this primal homophobia in a lot of straight men is evolution's way of making sure that they act as straight as possible, through feeling disgust at homosexuality. Now, maybe if a guy is viciously, loudly homophobic, then that's not attractive to women, but the genes that cause slight degrees of homophobia in men are still reproductively advantageous.
Lol, yeah. Often times because they think bisexual woman = threesomes (or at very least, getting to watch some live girl-in-girl action) The reality is, we can be just as vanilla and monogamous as straight people.
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Old 05-02-2020, 08:30 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Depends on what you mean by "visually oriented."


For males, visual stimulation with no other context can be enough to provoke sexual arousal all the way to climax.For women it seems to be only one factor, and nowhere near the major factor.
Oh man, that sounds like torture. Yeah, I definitely understand the distinction now.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:23 AM
 
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Or maybe because a straight woman wants a straight man.?

I have had homosexual men tell me that there is no such thing as a bisexual man...just homosexual men who aren't admitting it yet.


So maybe women know the same thing.
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Old 05-02-2020, 10:18 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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I have had homosexual men tell me that there is no such thing as a bisexual man...just homosexual men who aren't admitting it yet.

Clearly there is bias among your homosexual friends who would tell you such a thing. Pyschologically healthy people accept others for who they are (no matter their sexual orientation).
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Old 05-02-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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I didnt say YOUNG CHILDREN

I said young males, like the ages of 14-16.

Which approaches the legal age of consent in some parts of the world.
But not in most of the industrialized countries, incl. ours. Their brains aren't formed yet, and they haven't been raised to get married or couple at the age of 14 to 16. Youngsters used to marry that young in our country, but I think that's been outlawed in all the states, now. Which is a good thing, since it was mainly used to benefit the parents (like is done in the middle east...selling off daughters for money or donkeys or whatever).

The age of 16-17 gets a little murky, but legally, that's a no-no. Part of the reasoning for that is when someone is that young and inexperienced, they are easy to manipulate & coerce by an adult. Hence the charge of statutory rape, even when the 16 year old consented.
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