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Old 05-04-2020, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Ask any teenage male, or anyone who has ever been a teenage male. They can tell you about nocturnal emissions, better known as "wet dreams." Most (all?) teenage boys, at one time or another, will have a sexually vivid dream, and it will cause them to ejaculate while still in their sleep. This will happen even though their hands are keeping to themselves.
Right, so is it "visual" imaginings that are having that effect though, I assume?

Not a dream where one is imagining, say, someone doing something to you and how it would feel?

Not a dream where someone is saying things into your ear in a sexy voice?

That's what I was getting at. The senses most likely to engender arousal for me (a woman) are not sight. From everything I've ever been told, and the content that dominates the porn industry bears this out, men truly are "more visual" when it comes to what arouses them. Though I have met women who were similarly motivated.

Wonder what kind of dreams a blind guy is having...?
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Old 05-04-2020, 07:12 PM
 
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I suspect they are more interested in women with an hour glass figure. I think that this is an evolved preference in males.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc...=rep1&type=pdf
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Old 05-04-2020, 08:37 PM
 
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yes, but I'll add I'm about over women -- & forget men, could not care less, & I'm a guy. Last time I checked & I could be wrong here, I was a guy. But society has fallen apart at the seams so much, it matters not anymore who what where, what wine & where the hell did I dine -- when it comes to romance/dating/intimacy or even just peace & quiet...
Marriage is a failing institution aka sign of the times. Dating, a joke & losing game. Ha, bitter? ha, nope just realistic folks.

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Old 05-05-2020, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Port Angeles
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Red face Came out I'm gay crossdresser bottom

[quote=mysticaltyger;57973217]I'm gay and a I've also wondered if there's an evolutionary reason for the disgust/distaste of gay men by some straight men. I think it's a combination of several factors that are hard to tease out. There isn't enough research being done on this topic. Far left liberals don't like the idea of homosexuality having a biological component (and they control the purse strings on this type of research) because it would ruin the current fashionable idea that gender roles and behavior are all purely based on socialization. Religious conservatives don't like studying it because admitting homosexuality has a biological component means there's a legitimate basis for same sex marriage.[/QUO
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Old 05-05-2020, 04:52 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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I have not read through the thread, but did see your post question by another poster.

While I do suspect most homos were born that way, I know of at least two women who felt they became homo, because at least one knew she was hetero.

She was a coworker and told me this on a very slow night shift. She told me a story about complete attraction to guys and never even a thought about other women.
Then she was violently raped on a date.
While that alone did not cause her to become homo, she could not be alone with a man, and any time a man made an advancement (no matter how gentile or understanding) she could not get beyond the fear.

As you might imagine she saw psychologists, and still believed she was hetero, because she found men attractive.
But could not get beyond the brutality of the rape. She said that because she was still young she wanted to have sex, she kept putting herself out there, but only in groups. Yet when a guy would even want to give her a hug/kiss goodnight, she was too frightened.

Long story short, she said she got very drunk one night hoping to loosen up as she put it. She and her friends didn't find any interesting guys, so a friend of a friend offered to drive her home. Apparently the girl was homo, seduced her, and her drunkenness allowed it to happen.

Again as she put it, she still believed she was a hetero, but although she didn't like the idea of sex with another women, she enjoyed the "release" that night. That woman kept enticing her and it was always sex one way, as she was allowing her to do XYZ, but not reciprocating. However she never had any fear with this woman.
So she made another attempt with a guy she was really attracted to, but again the fear paralyzed her. So from that point on she started to just have sex with women, and now considers herself homo rather than hetero.

That story is obviously not the norm for most, but it is at least one example I am aware of where the person was hetero, but became homo.

As to the pedo comment with hetero vs. homo, I suspect pedos can come in any stripe. However from a common way of looking at it, I would assume male homos would be more attracted to boys and male heteros attracted to girls.
With female pedos the same.
Needless to say they are the scourge of society as they prey upon children, and need to be locked away for life, or at chemically castrated.



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This is a perfect example of how psychological trauma can and does affect sexuality.
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Old 05-05-2020, 05:04 AM
 
Location: North America
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You might be the perfect person to ask this question.

As a gay man, are you repulsed at the thought of romantically kissing a woman? That might answer your question.

Personally, I am repulsed at the thought of romantically kissing another man. It's hardwired, just like your sexual preference is hardwired.
Or not.

I'm a straight man. Do I want to kiss a man? Absolutely not. But a man kissing a man doesn't repulse me any more than a woman kissing a man. I don't want to be either of those kissing men, and I don't want to be that woman. I'm also repulsed by liver and Brussels sprouts but I do not find the sight of another person eating them to be objectionable.

It simply does not follow that, because I find a practice disagreeable for myself, that I therefore am opposed to others engaging in that practice.
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Old 05-06-2020, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Or not.

I'm a straight man. Do I want to kiss a man? Absolutely not. But a man kissing a man doesn't repulse me any more than a woman kissing a man. I don't want to be either of those kissing men, and I don't want to be that woman. I'm also repulsed by liver and Brussels sprouts but I do not find the sight of another person eating them to be objectionable.

It simply does not follow that, because I find a practice disagreeable for myself, that I therefore am opposed to others engaging in that practice.
I am not opposed to it and sexual preference can not be compared to food preference.
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Old 05-07-2020, 04:59 PM
 
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I'm gay and a I've also wondered if there's an evolutionary reason for the disgust/distaste of gay men by some straight men. I think it's a combination of several factors that are hard to tease out. There isn't enough research being done on this topic. Far left liberals don't like the idea of homosexuality having a biological component (and they control the purse strings on this type of research) because it would ruin the current fashionable idea that gender roles and behavior are all purely based on socialization. Religious conservatives don't like studying it because admitting homosexuality has a biological component means there's a legitimate basis for same sex marriage.
Short answer, there are some evolutionary factors at work that drive disgust sensitivity. Who has written a lot on the subject of disgust sensitivity is Jonathan Haidt. He is a professor of Moral Psychology previously at the University of Virginia and now at NYU Stern. His "The Righteous Mind", really dives into this he was trying to explain why we are drawn to the religious political beliefs we have, but it turns those are disgust sensitivity which is turn driven by the interplay of genes and environment.


https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Min.../dp/0307455777
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Old 05-13-2020, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Or not.

I'm a straight man. Do I want to kiss a man? Absolutely not. But a man kissing a man doesn't repulse me any more than a woman kissing a man. I don't want to be either of those kissing men, and I don't want to be that woman. I'm also repulsed by liver and Brussels sprouts but I do not find the sight of another person eating them to be objectionable.

It simply does not follow that, because I find a practice disagreeable for myself, that I therefore am opposed to others engaging in that practice.
You are comparing kissing a man, with eating something you are repulsed from.
Kissing a man doesn't have a flavor. it doesn't have a bad smell. It has neutral qualities.

Of course, this by itself doesn't mean you are homophobic. But from my point of view, it was a bad analogy.
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Old 05-19-2020, 02:26 PM
 
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You might be the perfect person to ask this question.

As a gay man, are you repulsed at the thought of romantically kissing a woman? That might answer your question.
I think repulsed is too strong a word. But I'm definitely not interested.

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Personally, I am repulsed at the thought of romantically kissing another man. It's hardwired, just like your sexual preference is hardwired.
I think at least part of that is socialization. If you're gay, you grow up seeing straight people kiss in movies, TV, and real life a gazillion times, so you're desensitized to it. If you're hetero, the number of exposures to two men kissing is probably 1% of what gays experiences seeing heteros kiss.
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