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Old 12-16-2020, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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1. Just a guess but since STD was mentioned, I'm thinking group sex or orgies. 2. If you want to be honest about it just about everyone's grandma was a racist. When we were kids in the 50s the older generation believed black people were unclean. Most white children didn't even come into contact with black children. There was legal segregation in the south, but cultural segregation every bit as strong in the north. Racism was much more common than the opposite.
See, as a kid, I thought of racism as being a thing tied to "the times" and norms of older generations. I heard my grandfather say something that struck me as repellent and racist when I was a kid, and I remember clearly thinking that over time, the older generation would die off and be replaced by more progressive younger ones and that racism would simply go away, and that would be good, when that happened.

Oh, how naive and optimistic I was. And on behalf of my child self, I feel downright betrayed at how much there still is, and how some young people actually identify strongly with these horrible notions of "bygone times" (I wish.) I mean, I know that things have shifted in a better direction for a lot of people, but... It saddens me that it's still out there.

And yeah, the STD comment made me think something similar...or maybe what I found out about an aunt and uncle of mine a long while back, that they were swingers. Oddly though, they were one of the happiest couples I had ever met, and stayed together and loved and supported each other through a lot...they made it to "death do them part" when my Uncle passed, and not just because they felt like they had to. They truly loved each other. Among people I grew up observing, that was rare and beautiful.
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Old 12-16-2020, 11:46 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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1. Just a guess but since STD was mentioned, I'm thinking group sex or orgies. 2. If you want to be honest about it just about everyone's grandma was a racist. When we were kids in the 50s the older generation believed black people were unclean. Most white children didn't even come into contact with black children. There was legal segregation in the south, but cultural segregation every bit as strong in the north. Racism was much more common than the opposite.
What are you talking about? Outside of the south, public schools were integrated. Some private schools were integrated. And Boomers who are now grandparents of some of the Millennials posting now came of age during the Civil Rights era, and were supportive of it. They were anti-racists. Some of their children and grandchildren are activists in that arena today.
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Old 12-16-2020, 11:51 AM
 
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1. Just a guess but since STD was mentioned, I'm thinking group sex or orgies. 2. If you want to be honest about it just about everyone's grandma was a racist. When we were kids in the 50s the older generation believed black people were unclean. Most white children didn't even come into contact with black children. There was legal segregation in the south, but cultural segregation every bit as strong in the north. Racism was much more common than the opposite.
Agree with you on the racism. I was just noting the racist grandma comment because the poster did not comment that it was racist and I think it's important that that kind of language not be normalized any more.
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Old 12-16-2020, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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What are you talking about? Outside of the south, public schools were integrated. Some private schools were integrated. And Boomers who are now grandparents of some of the Millennials posting now came of age during the Civil Rights era, and were supportive of it. They were anti-racists. Some of their children and grandchildren are activists in that arena today.
Sure, but none of that means that racism didn't exist outside of the South, because it definitely did (and still does.)
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Old 12-16-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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What are you talking about? Outside of the south, public schools were integrated. Some private schools were integrated. And Boomers who are now grandparents of some of the Millennials posting now came of age during the Civil Rights era, and were supportive of it. They were anti-racists. Some of their children and grandchildren are activists in that arena today.
I didn't say all boomers were racists, though many were and still are. I said the previous generations were mostly racist. They grew up with those stereotypes and had very little contact with black people, to counter those stereotypes.
I went to Catholic school in the 1950's in NYC and I think there were one or two black children in the school. My wife went to public elementary school in Brooklyn and there were just a few black kids in the school. I went to high school in San Francisco in the early 60's and there were only a handful of black students in my high school. They were popular, one was a cheerleader, but there was still only a handful.
In the mid 1980's I worked in Brooklyn and took a ride through Bedford Stuyvesant and Brownsville, and drove for 20 minutes on the main busy streets without seeing a single white person. I realized that this was true apartheid. I had black co-workers, but this is where they lived.
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Old 12-16-2020, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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If I am going to be honest .. I can’t say I have ever given hippies a second thought. I know that my parents were kind of anti establishment types... who grew up to be a Lawyer and a cardio vascular surgeon.
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Old 12-16-2020, 05:45 PM
 
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Actually, most of academia professors are those hippies and at least where I work, make $300-$400k/year.
Yes, and I'm sure they are just quite happy with their lives.
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Old 12-16-2020, 06:04 PM
 
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IMO, the 1960s hippies would be considered "Conservatives" or "Libertarians" by today's standards.
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Old 12-16-2020, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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IMO, the 1960s hippies would be considered "Conservatives" or "Libertarians" by today's standards.
Libertarians by many standards, but not conservatives. Free-spirited people doing "free love", drugs, advocating for women's liberation and rebelling against authority could hardly be called "conservative."
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Old 12-16-2020, 06:26 PM
 
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1. What kinds of scandalous things are you talking about?

2) Your other grandmother is racist. Horrible comment.
I don't want to go into exact details as that's private....just I think there are some documentaries that touch on the darker sides of the movement, nationwide. I think they ended up being sort of led into things that they wouldn't have been okay with otherwise.

My other grandmother (long deceased) was a racist, although she thought she held rather progressive views. Maybe compared to her parents, she did.
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