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I live in MO. I'm in conservative culture. My husband isn't conservative, but the churches I've been to often are.
I'm aware of things like this. That's why I have threads dealing with sexuality, men, women, and the different views people have.
You have to understand, when in this kind of cultural context, how challenging it is to be a visual woman. Pastors think this is only a male thing. And males have authority. So if men are shallow, it doesn't matter, because they have the authority.
What do we do when women are also visual? In this kind of culture, they deny we exist. It's only a male thing.
In another kind of culture, women get assailed for being shallow. We're told we're not special or unique for having physical or visual sexual attraction.
And yet these men in authority teach that women cannot possibly be this way.
When you live in Missouri, and you're in this kind of culture -- this is what we get inundated with.
Don't live there, don't worship with wacked out pastors like this.
Are you asking a Psychology question about this? What i believe about the psychology of how people find each other attractive is not impacted by geography or religiosity.
I live in MO. I'm in conservative culture. My husband isn't conservative, but the churches I've been to often are.
I'm aware of things like this. That's why I have threads dealing with sexuality, men, women, and the different views people have.
You have to understand, when in this kind of cultural context, how challenging it is to be a visual woman. Pastors think this is only a male thing. And males have authority. So if men are shallow, it doesn't matter, because they have the authority.
What do we do when women are also visual? In this kind of culture, they deny we exist. It's only a male thing.
In another kind of culture, women get assailed for being shallow. We're told we're not special or unique for having physical or visual sexual attraction.
And yet these men in authority teach that women cannot possibly be this way.
When you live in Missouri, and you're in this kind of culture -- this is what we get inundated with.
Do you understand now?
Not really. I don't equate the warped opinions of a few local cultural "authority" figures to the psychological mental processes of an entire species (Homo sapiens). Talk about broad brush stereotyping!
I live in MO. I'm in conservative culture. My husband isn't conservative, but the churches I've been to often are.
I'm aware of things like this. That's why I have threads dealing with sexuality, men, women, and the different views people have.
You have to understand, when in this kind of cultural context, how challenging it is to be a visual woman. Pastors think this is only a male thing. And males have authority. So if men are shallow, it doesn't matter, because they have the authority.
What do we do when women are also visual? In this kind of culture, they deny we exist. It's only a male thing.
In another kind of culture, women get assailed for being shallow. We're told we're not special or unique for having physical or visual sexual attraction.
And yet these men in authority teach that women cannot possibly be this way.
When you live in Missouri, and you're in this kind of culture -- this is what we get inundated with.
I live in Missouri, and I've grown up in conservative churches, and have attended conservative churches a good chunk of my life.
I'm sorry, but I can't really relate to anything you posted. I've never felt that my pastor(s) thought I was shallow. And as far as I know, in none of the churches I attended, did I think the pastor was dismissive or patronizing to women.
That said, I attended 2 years of high school at a Christian school, and the director of that school was also a pastor of an independent Baptist church, and HE was a creep. Always staring at the older girls and some other things. But he wasn't my pastor. Thankfully.
Ha! I read the link after my first reply. He's a General Baptist preacher. In my life, I've attended 2 General Baptist churches for years. Probably between the 2, 15 years.
This guy in the link, he's NOT typical of General Baptist pastors, and THIS guy is an embarrassment. What an ass.
When you live in Missouri, and you're in this kind of culture -- this is what we get inundated with.
Do you understand now?
That pastor was saying that a marriage and a husband's commitment to the family, marriage, and life built by the two people are solely based on the wife's weight and appearance. That's sexist, shallow, and overall insulting.
As a spouse (of either side), I would be totally upset that what we built as a couple means nothing to my spouse. They could walk away like it means nothing if I gained 10 pounds?? When faced with that, I would feel like I married the wrong person. I would want to walk away to find someone who can put things into perspective.
I've had discussions about these topics in a number of communities now to get better perspective, and the consensus is I've allowed myself to get too influenced by some really narrow communities with a major echo chamber problem. In getting more feedback, I can now more easily see that these communities aren't very representative of larger populations' views necessarily.
I've had discussions about these topics in a number of communities now to get better perspective, and the consensus is I've allowed myself to get too influenced by some really narrow communities with a major echo chamber problem. In getting more feedback, I can now more easily see that these communities aren't very representative of larger populations' views necessarily.
Exactly.
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