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Old 03-04-2022, 01:26 AM
 
Location: PNW
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I very much do. People who can be trusted with deep conversations though are few and far between. It is far easier if those people are outside of your immediate circles. Another poster wrote that there are a number of necessary functions in friendship:
  1. Friends that support their goals and dreams; and
  2. who lift you up when you need to be lifted up;
To that I would add ones who render unstinting, critical solid advice, see Another Take on Frank Advice. That, almost by necessity comes from people who are outside of day to day contact in an educational or employment setting. The problem is that "deep conversations with friends" are often very personal. As great as any person might be at keeping a confidence, total trust is very hard outside a marriage, or outside of isolation of the relationships involving deep conversations from the risk of violation of privacy.

To me, deep conversations involve feelings that one doesn't express, belief in G-d, and attitudes toward life and death. Those are difficult conversations to have. They are very rewarding when they are possible.

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Old 03-04-2022, 02:27 AM
 
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I enjoy deep thinking conversations, but if I find people interested in engaging in it, they only want to talk, not listen.

Small talk bores me to sleep.
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Old 03-04-2022, 05:18 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I very much do. People who can be trusted with deep conversations though are few and far between. It is far easier if those people are outside of your immediate circles. Another poster wrote that there are a number of necessary functions in friendship:
  1. Friends that support their goals and dreams; and
  2. who lift you up when you need to be lifted up;
To that I would add ones who render unstinting, critical solid advice, see Another Take on Frank Advice. That, almost by necessity comes from people who are outside of day to day contact in an educational or employment setting. The problem is that "deep conversations with friends" are often very personal. As great as any person might be at keeping a confidence, total trust is very hard outside a marriage, or outside of isolation of the relationships involving deep conversations from the risk of violation of privacy.

To me, deep conversations involve feelings that one doesn't express, belief in G-d, and attitudes toward life and death. Those are difficult conversations to have. They are very rewarding when they are possible.
Strongly Agree.
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Old 03-04-2022, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Austria
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I enjoy deep thinking conversations, but if I find people interested in engaging in it, they only want to talk, not listen.

Small talk bores me to sleep.
I hear you Javacoffee. Listening is hard these days. People may be listening but soon change the subject to themselves.
I for one cant stand small talk either.
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Old 03-04-2022, 08:15 AM
 
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I don’t find good conversations hard to find. It is as enjoyable to listen to as it is to talk about ideas, which is what I think are the basis of deep conversation. I like learning why people think the way they do. If they have thought about it deeply, read books and other literature, then it is interesting to me. If they are repeating silly stupid stuff some stupid person was talking about on TV, I move on.
The friends I enjoy having interesting conversation have friends who do as well. It is always nice to meet and have meaningful conversations.
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Old 03-04-2022, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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I would rather talk about automatic transmission torque converters or how differentials work, but that's me. There is a rather limited audience for that, but fortunately, there is YouTube.
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So, you don't talk to women much?
Wow, sexist!
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Old 03-04-2022, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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I do. We would dive into different things like the meaning of life, each others concerns, joys, philosophy, just name it. Sometimes we would chat for 2 hours straight or more and you know what? Time flies while you are at it.
One of my great memories was a New Year's Eve 3-way argument/discussion between me (a Capitalist), a Trotskyite, and a Stalinist covering a wide range of topics. It was friendly and passionate, and the 3-way dynamic meant that sometimes one would side with one, and sometimes with the other depending on the particular point being made.

Sadly a lot of potentially "deep" discussions devolve into superficial discussions about politics.
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Old 03-04-2022, 08:40 AM
 
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Wow, sexist!
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Old 03-04-2022, 09:01 AM
 
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Uhh, just because a woman says "so you don't talk to women much?" that makes her sexist when clearly it's a conversation that most women do not enjoy? Okay then!

I'll be sure to make some chick conversation in here and see if you males will partake.
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Old 03-04-2022, 09:02 AM
 
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Uhh, just because a woman says "so you don't talk to women much?" that makes her sexist when clearly it's a conversation that most women do not enjoy? Okay then!

I'll be sure to make some chick conversation in here and see if you males will partake.
The statement assumes women have no interest in talking about automotives. That is a sexist assumption.
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