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Old 06-05-2023, 04:34 PM
 
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We always hear that women who are hypersexual has been sexually abused in the past... but what about men? I know men have a lot more testosterone and need more sex than women, but is there something wrong with men who have had sex with over 100 people? I think that anyone who has slept with hundreds of people must have deep rooted issues..
There's a big problem in assessing such connections: men are far less likely to report past sexual abuse. So it's a lot more difficult to know how men react due to sexual abuse in the past.

Is there something wrong with men who have had sex with over 100 people...I don't know. But that isn't necessarily hypersexuality. Hypersexuality AFAIK is a compulsion.

"Hundreds" of people...I have literally never known anyone in my life who has slept with hundreds of people. I do know insecure guys who used to claim in high school that they had slept with "50 girls" or "80 girls" and we all just gave them the side eye but left them alone b/c it was just pretty obvious they felt like they had to say that in order to feel cool. Definitely none of us were having sex with them, LOL. So where they would have dragged these 80 girls up from none of us knew. But actual, legitimate "I've slept with over 100 women" people? Who, Dennis Rodman? I never really believe that, TBH. It's usually couched in insecurity which is generally the tip-off. Again...not hypersexuality either way. Because this is an issue, a condition that hinders one's life and I doubt people are bragging about it if they have it.

 
Old 06-05-2023, 04:37 PM
 
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I don't know why you are arguing... Not sure why you are being triggered here.. I'd say my circle of friends is about 15 if that matters. They do work as prostitutes. They use strip clubs as a means to access prospective clients. It is a much safer way for vetting future customers than posting an ad online, resorting to the streets, handing money to an "agency" or worse a pimp. It is the same way my fiance operated; regulars she felt comfortable with generally met through dancing venues. Customers visited her on several occasions and treated her well in the club. The clubs also offer some level of security as well while vetting customers.

You also should consider that it is difficult to get a good sampling for studies as the nature of the job (illegal, stigma, risk to family and personal life) means that they are sampling the worst of the worst of sex work. A large segment of sex workers wouldn't even consider the option of participating in such studies as it is considered high risk to their personal lives. Sure you can interview those that end up in clinics and hospitals but again.... that sampling is going to be highly skewed toward drug addicts who fund their habit through sex...

I'm not sure why you think giving my on personal accounts means I am arguing against you..... what do you want me to do? Lie about my personal accounts. If you search, you can see that I pull from my personal accounts on other threads as well. It isn't the first time I've mentioned my life and my friends; also not the first time you had a strong reaction to my posts regarding. Get over it.
I'm not saying your personal accounts are invalid. I'm sure these people have acted very blase about it around you. You're saying so. I have no reason to doubt that. They may or may not be injured, they may or may not have been victims of SA. They are definitely not mentioning it to you. I believe that. SA victims rarely even let people they trust know about it so that's not a surprise either way.

But data is data, and then one person is one person.

Sure it's hard to get a sampling. Which makes it even more stunning that so MANY prostitutes are willing to bring it up at all. To anybody. There are likely many, many, many more formerly SA'd prostitutes than are saying so. Just like there are many, many more people who are in average jobs, living average jobs, who were formerly SA'd, than are willing to tell anybody, least of all join a study.
 
Old 06-05-2023, 04:41 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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I think it is mostly genetic.

I don’t buy this explanation that women become prostitutes or porn stars because they were abused as children.

Unless someone can show me a lot of good scientific evidence for that.
Psychological health may be partially genetic in terms of mental health disorders; but at the end of the day, one chooses to be a prostitute or porn ‘star’ based in re: how psychologically unwell (or financially desperate/manipulative) they are in the present.
 
Old 06-05-2023, 07:14 PM
 
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My late wife eventually honed her practice into personal growth assistance and helping sexually abused children overcome their situations through a couple of specific therapies. She did excellent work.

This thread, and the various commentaries remind me of just why counselors, psychologists, and psychiatrists have to be trained and have supervised practice and pass licensure requirements to be able to practice.

Adult prostitution (sex acts in exchange for money) is an entirely different subject than abused kids.

Hypersexuality is a specific term meaning the desire to engage in sex (in any form, including masturbation) and that becoming problematic when it interferes with life and/or the person or those around find it an impediment.

(Sarcasm mode on)
Rarely can prostitutes earn money without interacting in some fashion with clients.

As a VERY basic rhetorical question, given this startling new information, can you professionals provide a universal percentage of how much of the "hypersexuality" issue being chewed on here is sex related, how much is in the interrelationships with other people, how much is self-worth related, how much relates to value systems, drug addiction, etc. ?

Even if you guess, your guess is worthless. You don't have even the basic training to understand the issues, yet from your posts you DO obviously have massive bias and preconceptions that are based more upon unchallenged assumptions than fact.
(Sarcasm mode off)

When abused kids get proper help, chances of them acting out in adolescence is reduced. Adults of the age of majority and older generally get to choose their own paths - whether abused or not.

Pardon me while I wash my hands.
 
Old 06-05-2023, 08:06 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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My late wife eventually honed her practice into personal growth assistance and helping sexually abused children overcome their situations through a couple of specific therapies. She did excellent work.
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What I DO have as knowledge is many conversations with my wife, and later access to her client files after she died before I burned them.
There is a legal and ethical obligation to protect client files/records. How did you have access as her spouse?

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There is something called client confidentiality, so no, that information will not be shared to add to this mess.
That obligation was relative to your wife which, apparently, she did not uphold.
 
Old 06-05-2023, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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