11-02-2015, 07:20 AM
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
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While waiting (and hoping) for the title defect to clear, I've been checking daily on homes in Charlotte County that are on sailboat water and under $400K. Very slim pickins. I have only my memory to support this but it seems to me the prices are a lot higher then when we got here a few months ago. I'm now also searching for liveaboard sailboats because, if this deal falls through, I don't think we'll be able to afford anything in CC that's on sailboat water.
11-02-2015, 07:57 AM
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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Tujuleez1
While waiting (and hoping) for the title defect to clear, I've been checking daily on homes in Charlotte County that are on sailboat water and under $400K. Very slim pickins. I have only my memory to support this but it seems to me the prices are a lot higher then when we got here a few months ago. I'm now also searching for liveaboard sailboats because, if this deal falls through, I don't think we'll be able to afford anything in CC that's on sailboat water.
If you don't limit yourself to PGI or close to the harbor in Port Charlotte it is very doable. Heck we live on waterfront by PGI 20/25 Mins to the harbor. There's 3 homes for sale here. 180/200/240. The one listed at 180 even has a sailboat on the lift in the pictures. So with my scenario you can buy 2 and a new car also for 400k. Good luck on your sale. Hope it goes thru.
11-02-2015, 08:11 AM
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
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If you don't limit yourself to PGI or close to the harbor in Port Charlotte it is very doable. Heck we live on waterfront by PGI 20/25 Mins to the harbor. There's 3 homes for sale here. 180/200/240. The one listed at 180 even has a sailboat on the lift in the pictures. So with my scenario you can buy 2 and a new car also for 400k. Good luck on your sale. Hope it goes thru.
I've been looking at bridge clearance as well as canal depth and I can't find anything outside of PGI or in-close Port Charlotte that will allow for sailboat access to Charlotte Harbor.
FWIW, I get bridge clearances using Open CPN charts. The Tamiami bridge between PG & PC has a 45' bridge clearance. The bridge between El Jobean and Charlotte Beach has a 25' clearance. According to the charts, the remaining waterways are too shallow.
11-02-2015, 08:36 AM
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Dallas, PA
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I've been looking at bridge clearance as well as canal depth and I can't find anything outside of PGI or in-close Port Charlotte that will allow for sailboat access to Charlotte Harbor. According to the charts, the remaining waterways are too shallow .
Sounds like you have/want a deep draft sailboat. Up north (I'm from the Chesapeake Bay area) sailboat water was defined by the depth of the water. No so here. It's whether there are bridges to pass under. Water depth has little to do with it being called "sailboat" water. Due to the shallowness of the harbor I think shallow draft and / or retractable keels are more popular here.
11-02-2015, 08:58 AM
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JERSEY MAN
If you don't limit yourself to PGI or close to the harbor in Port Charlotte it is very doable. Heck we live on waterfront by PGI 20/25 Mins to the harbor. There's 3 homes for sale here. 180/200/240. The one listed at 180 even has a sailboat on the lift in the pictures. So with my scenario you can buy 2 and a new car also for 400k. Good luck on your sale. Hope it goes thru.
I don't know which area to which you are referring. I've seen every house online in Port Charlotte, PGI and BSI.
The homes under $400k are either small and quite old, or the ingress/egress is not favorable to accommodate a 35' sailboat. Many of the homes are corner lots, or are in the 'power boat' section.
As for draft, we are looking at a 5' draft, give or take. That's not particularly deep.
As for prices pretty much every PGI home north or south of Marion is in the mid 400's on up. BSI and Port Charlotte are the only areas that have homes near 400k.
Home inventory remains quite low in this price range. Seems like prices have either risen, or perhaps "pocket" sales may be back in play.
11-02-2015, 09:20 AM
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
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I'm trying to keep the draft of the sailboat at 5' or less, whether it's a centerboard or shoal draft doesn't matter but I'd prefer shoal draft, one less thing to go wrong. Bridge clearance for most boats I've looked at is over 45'. Add masthead instruments and antenna to that and even the PG-PC Tamaimi bridge can be a nail biter.
11-02-2015, 10:01 AM
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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Ok it seems like u need deep water at all times. I just posted about waterfront homes that have sailboats behind their homes with no bridges to the harbor. I'm a powerboat guy.
11-02-2015, 10:38 AM
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
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I'm trying to get used to 5' as being deep water. I sailed the Great Lakes, mostly Lake Michigan, all my life and if you're under 5', you're almost on the beach.
11-02-2015, 11:01 AM
Location: Lemon Bay, Englewood, FL
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I'm trying to get used to 5' as being deep water. I sailed the Great Lakes, mostly Lake Michigan, all my life and if you're under 5', you're almost on the beach.
Same here. I came from from Grand Haven in West Michigan. The "shallow" water here will take getting used to. The 22ft holes in the harbor are considered "deep", lol. Sailors definitely need to keep a closer eye on the depth gage and charts much more so than us powerboat guys.
11-02-2015, 11:35 AM
Location: P.C.F
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2645 W MARION AVENUE Unit: 511 looks nice even has a small sailboat lift. Another one on Ohara I still see them around.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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