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Old 03-20-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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Btw, the card was also recently used at the carwash down 41, between Jones Loop and Aqui Esta. Also used it at Gators, Publix and CVS. Guess you just never know. I do like where the waiter scans the card at the table, but even there, who knows.

Guess that cash is king. What's old is new again. Likewise, My old car could never be taken over or "hacked". It's off the grid!
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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Went up to Tampa about 3 months ago to visit my Sister,bought gas at a shell station in Tampa on the way home using my credit card.Three days later my cc company called and asked if I had made two purchases,one at Publix and one at Winn Dixie in the Tampa area.I had not,charges were taken off my bill and new card issued.It's becoming very commonplace in Florida.Never had a problem in Ohio.
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte
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I had a customer last year from Ireland. his card was run while he was out of the country over here for 100,000 or more as I recall. the card company didn't question the charges figured he was on vacation
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Old 03-21-2016, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Florida Suncoast
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It sounds like the law enforcement and criminal justice system in Florida is too weak, even weaker than other states. If the politician's weren't so weak, this problem could be almost completely eliminated. There should be long hard prison time with forced labor. The huge costs of long term prison sentences could be drastically reduced by outsourcing the long term prisoners to third world countries. Everyone benefits. The state benefits from dramatically lower costs and almost no repeat crimes after the sentences are completed, since the criminals would fear returning to the third world prisons. The third world country would benefit from the payments from the state, which would drastically lower the costs. The third world country would benefit from the free labor. The prisoners would benefit since they would be educated to work hard and behave properly or be beaten every day until they learn how to behave properly. Maybe countries like North Korea could provide the prison facilities.

After the off shored prison sentences were completed, the people could return to the US. Very few would ever think about committing more crimes because of the constant fear that they would have to return to the third world prison. The states that used third world country's prisons for long term prison sentences would then have drastically lower crime than other states which coddle the criminals. Criminal activity would drastically be reduced, since there would be very few new criminal being created, because of the fear they could be sent to a third world prison. The offshored prisons could be expanded to other states when it is demonstrated that offshoring long term prison sentences is an effective method to drastically and permanently reduce crime. Crime could be reduced dramatically if we were willing to do what it takes. If not, the crime problems will simply continue and will likely get worse in the future.
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Old 03-21-2016, 05:44 AM
 
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We are snowbirds and had credit card information stolen in Naples area. This year we stopped in Naples on our way south at a Wells Fargo office to have a document notarized. They were very nice and warned us to guard our credit cards and watch for skimmers, especially at gas stations. He said FL was a highly targeted area. Nice people at Wells Fargo, they didn't charge us for the notary and we didn't have an account.

By the way we have had a "freeze" on our credit for years. IOW no one can open a "new" credit card, make a large purchase i.e. house or car. That doesn't stop the skimmers from using your info to make a card which you are current using or use that number.
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Old 03-21-2016, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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It sounds like the law enforcement and criminal justice system in Florida is too weak, even weaker than other states. If the politician's weren't so weak, this problem could be almost completely eliminated. There should be long hard prison time with forced labor. The huge costs of long term prison sentences could be drastically reduced by outsourcing the long term prisoners to third world countries. Everyone benefits. The state benefits from dramatically lower costs and almost no repeat crimes after the sentences are completed, since the criminals would fear returning to the third world prisons. The third world country would benefit from the payments from the state, which would drastically lower the costs. The third world country would benefit from the free labor. The prisoners would benefit since they would be educated to work hard and behave properly or be beaten every day until they learn how to behave properly. Maybe countries like North Korea could provide the prison facilities.

After the off shored prison sentences were completed, the people could return to the US. Very few would ever think about committing more crimes because of the constant fear that they would have to return to the third world prison. The states that used third world country's prisons for long term prison sentences would then have drastically lower crime than other states which coddle the criminals. Criminal activity would drastically be reduced, since there would be very few new criminal being created, because of the fear they could be sent to a third world prison. The offshored prisons could be expanded to other states when it is demonstrated that offshoring long term prison sentences is an effective method to drastically and permanently reduce crime. Crime could be reduced dramatically if we were willing to do what it takes. If not, the crime problems will simply continue and will likely get worse in the future.
Exactly.
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Old 03-21-2016, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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It sounds like the law enforcement and criminal justice system in Florida is too weak, even weaker than other states. If the politician's weren't so weak, this problem could be almost completely eliminated. There should be long hard prison time with forced labor. The huge costs of long term prison sentences could be drastically reduced by outsourcing the long term prisoners to third world countries. Everyone benefits. The state benefits from dramatically lower costs and almost no repeat crimes after the sentences are completed, since the criminals would fear returning to the third world prisons. The third world country would benefit from the payments from the state, which would drastically lower the costs. The third world country would benefit from the free labor. The prisoners would benefit since they would be educated to work hard and behave properly or be beaten every day until they learn how to behave properly. Maybe countries like North Korea could provide the prison facilities.

After the off shored prison sentences were completed, the people could return to the US. Very few would ever think about committing more crimes because of the constant fear that they would have to return to the third world prison. The states that used third world country's prisons for long term prison sentences would then have drastically lower crime than other states which coddle the criminals. Criminal activity would drastically be reduced, since there would be very few new criminal being created, because of the fear they could be sent to a third world prison. The offshored prisons could be expanded to other states when it is demonstrated that offshoring long term prison sentences is an effective method to drastically and permanently reduce crime. Crime could be reduced dramatically if we were willing to do what it takes. If not, the crime problems will simply continue and will likely get worse in the future.
The Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution states: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.” This amendment prohibits the federal government from imposing unduly harsh penalties on criminal defendants, either as the price for obtaining pretrial release or as punishment for crime after conviction.
Federal courts (and some state courts) have also ruled that most inmates must be incarcerated in the state that their crime was committed. This amendment also applies to the individual states. Most states, my home state of Maryland included, do coddle criminals and sentences for property crimes are notoriously weak but Florida is not among this group. The state is criticized for its incarceration of non-violent low level offenders (credit card offenses included). If you want a law and order state then Florida (and Texas) should be at the top of your list. By the way, Minnesota couldn't be a more liberal state and I doubt that the sentencing of criminal defendants could be close to what is meted out in Florida.
I am a police officer with the 22nd largest department in the United States and have investigated hundreds of identity theft/credit card misuse/fraud cases. These crimes have one of the lowest clearance rates because they are normally complex and have jurisdictional problems and banks/credit card companies are notoriously uncooperative with law enforcement.
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Old 03-21-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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Exactly.
Are you guys Trump supporters or what? North Korea, really?

I agree that they should serve time, but appropriate to the amount of money stolen. White collar crimes involving millions should result in much longer terms, IMHO.
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:44 AM
 
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Are you guys Trump supporters or what? North Korea, really?

I agree that they should serve time, but appropriate to the amount of money stolen. White collar crimes involving millions should result in much longer terms, IMHO.
Try getting any authority to even investigate a white collar crime. You would be amazed at the disinterest.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:40 PM
 
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Try getting any authority to even investigate a white collar crime. You would be amazed at the disinterest.
Yeah, follow the campaign money trail. Must be like a Bernie Madoff type, rather than your run of the mill derivatives trader.
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