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Old 02-24-2019, 11:20 AM
 
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I hear all kinds of wives tales and 1/2 truths about mangroves in man made canals. I am sure someone on here knows the real answer. If your frontage along a man made canal has become over run with mangroves, can they be removed and put in a seawall? Port Charlotte area.

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Old 02-24-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Dallas, PA
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Yes, they can be removed but it comes at a cost. Besides the extra delay waiting for the Army Corp to approve it, you'll have to pay a ransom to the state. Supposedly they use that $$ to replant mangroves somewhere else.
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:07 AM
 
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How much is their ransom fee to "replant" the invasive species?
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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don't even think about it without all the permits.."invasive species"..I don't think so..protected species, yes..
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Old 02-25-2019, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Lemon Bay, Englewood, FL
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People in my neighborhood take them out all the time, and nobody says boo about it. But it only takes one person.... The guy directly across the canal from us removed 100ft of them (they were so thick you couldn't see his house). He backed up with his truck and yanked them all out over a weekend. I miss the privacy, but hey, it's not my property. And being a canal, there's no erosion control concern.
There is one neighbor that pays $1,200 every 2yrs or so to have a state-licensed trimmer come out and trim them back so they aren't choking off the canal to boat traffic. No permit req'd for that. Just has to be a licensed trimmer.
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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Lets not turn this into an environmentalist vs. reasonable person thread. I asked a question and that is the only answer I am looking for.
They may be protected but anyone who does not think it is an invasive species either has their head in the sand or never owned property with them present.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Dallas, PA
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How much is their ransom fee to "replant" the invasive species?
I'll check with my friend who just dealt with this same issue 2 or 3 years ago, but he just had joint-replacement surgery so it may be a few days before I get back with the answer.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Dallas, PA
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My friend had to pay approximately $1500 to the state for an 80' wide lot. It doesn't seem to matter that these are man-made canals, not natural waterways where the mangroves grew naturally. Unless, that is, the state charges even more when you disturb natural mangroves.
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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Thank You MikMal
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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No, It Doesn't matter that these canals were man made over 5 Decades Ago and are now inhabited by Numerous Protected Species.. Ahhhhh but if we looked we would see that often the prevailing species along the canal is Brazilian Pepper and THAT IS Listed as an INVASIVE Species..Looks like Army Corp needs a reminder to look closely at satellite photo over lays of Englewood for at least the last 5 years..
MacGregor Sailor, I see you reinvented yourself as Sparky.
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