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I completely disagree. The schools are so overcrowded that it is almost physically impossible to have all students in the school for lunch at once. There are around 2,300 students at Panther Creek and the cafeteria holds 700....seems a little difficult. The kids can go anywhere on campus for lunch, but it would still be packed. Also, it costs $17 a month to have a parking space, or $170 for a whole school year. So that's already $170,000 (assuming around 1,000 students have parking spots) which will EASILY cover the payment for the security guard with a lot more to put towards other things. Oh, and you already do have to pay for an off-campus pass, so there would be A LOT of money lost if they stop off-campus lunches.
Oh and having the students go to restaurants to buy lunch also supports the local economy, which is always a good thing these days.
Four lunch shifts. Creates issues with bell schedules but it can and has been done. Not as ideal as three but needs to be weighed against the alternatives.
The responders to my OP are to be commended. Good conversation with pro's and con's. Hopefully folks will get to thinking on a broader scale so the districts can have meaningful public discussion as the funding crisis unfolds.
Wake schools are in financial trouble? How can this be? The neighborhood schools advocates said if we send all the poor kids back to their neighborhoods, we can then direct extra money and resources to those high poverty schools where it is needed.
Maybe we're in trouble because they haven't done it yet?
Four lunch shifts. Creates issues with bell schedules but it can and has been done. Not as ideal as three but needs to be weighed against the alternatives.
I agree - you need to work with what you have, and sometimes a little creativity solves many problems. Change the schedule from three to four lunch shifts and you have capacity. With schools usually operating from 8 am to 3 pm, "lunch" should better be positioned in the middle of that time frame anyway, but thats OT.
The big problem is that public schools are for everyone, and you can't just decide to charge people money to attend and participate.
Security staff is required to manage and monitor the comings and goings of the students leaving campus for lunch.
That is non-sense. Security staff are not required. Security is a luxury and we can only have as much as we can afford. After all, who looks after the students once they are out of the parking lot?
In NH my highschool, grades 10-12, we had 3000 students. We starting eating around 10:00 AM I think until around 12:30 PM maybe in shifts.
That sounds just like a 4 shift schedule with 1/2 hour lunches and passing time between. The killer of 4 shifts is that it doesn't give time to clean the cafeteria between shifts.
That is non-sense. Security staff are not required. Security is a luxury and we can only have as much as we can afford. After all, who looks after the students once they are out of the parking lot?
Off school property after school and not involved in a school activity etc they are not the responsibility of the school.
By far the most common usage of in loco parentis relates to teachers and students. For hundreds of years, the English common-law concept shaped the rights and responsibilities of public school teachers: until the late nineteenth century, their legal authority over students was as broad as that of parents. Changes in U.S. education, concurrent with a broader reading by courts of the rights of students, began bringing the concept into disrepute by the 1960s. Cultural changes, however, brought a resurgence of the doctrine in the twenty-first century.
It is the basis for a negligence lawsuit when a student is harmed and the parents and their attorney want to hold the school liable.
The new direction is SMART lunch, which provides students with amazing opportunities for remediation, makeup, and enrichment.
Exactly. SMART Lunch allows every student to have lunch at the same time and they are required to attend a certain amount of classes per quarter during lunch to get extra help and assistance. Having 4 lunches just isn't ideal because that only leaves 20 or 25 minutes for students to wait in the very long lunch lines and eat it.
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