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Old 12-11-2010, 08:17 AM
 
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Watch what is done to public education. JoCo is looking at cutting 90-130 teachers and 140-280 teaching asistants depending if the cut stays at 5% or heads closer to 10%. Wake is going to loose even more staff.
What are reduction in force guidelines in JoCo? Do you know what they are in Wake? Is it determined by the state and uniform across counties?
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Old 12-11-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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What happened to cutting all state Employee's pay by 5% (or whatever it was)...that saved some jobs....
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Old 12-11-2010, 08:19 PM
 
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What happened to cutting all state Employee's pay by 5% (or whatever it was)...that saved some jobs....
Problem is, it doesn't cut the state's budget by as much as laying people off.

When someone's salary is reduced, the state continues to pay the state's portion of the benefit package. Also, despite the reduced salary the employees still occupy an office, still have I.T. and phone connections, still travel, still have to receive performance reviews, etc. There are many attracted costs that stay the same when reducing salaries.

Harsh reality: if deep expense reductions are necessary, there is no substitute to pushing people out the door.
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Old 12-11-2010, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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When someone's salary is reduced, the state continues to pay the state's portion of the benefit package. Also, despite the reduced salary the employees still occupy an office, still have I.T. and phone connections, still travel, still have to receive performance reviews, etc. There are many attracted costs that stay the same when reducing salaries.
Most of this is of course true, though state employees have been an a "travel freeze" for at least a couple of years, except when mission-crucial (such as 'district supervisors', etc.). As for offices, there's been an office shortage in most state buildings I'm aware of, with formerly single offices split into doubles or doubles into triples due to work units being shuffled around to save money in renting different facilities.

But yes, the benefits package is usually a huge part of the total compensation, and you can't really reduce that by 5% (or whatever). Instead they've been raising premiums for dependents so far, but probably employees themselves will finally have to start paying parts of the premiums, I suspect.
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Old 12-11-2010, 10:53 PM
 
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Im happy they cant cut my retirement check..
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Old 12-14-2010, 05:56 AM
 
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What happened to cutting all state Employee's pay by 5% (or whatever it was)...that saved some jobs....
One of the problems of the across the board pay reduction plan is that it isn't targeted. You are cutting everyone and that includes highly valuable, skilled people in hard to find/in demand fields. They leave and you have real difficulty attracting replacements. Layoffs allow you to target specific departments and specific levels as appropriate. Asking your budget director and their staff to take a cut is potentially suicidal etc etc etc.
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