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Old 01-10-2011, 09:05 PM
 
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Don't mean to rain on your parade, but you might find that cheaper housing differs a lot from Europe in quality. Same goes for food (the one that's cheaper), although there has been some significant progress in the last few years all over the country.

We came to the US 10 years ago for 3 months and never looked back, but some europeans we met were dying to go back home and just wouldn't stop whining. I think they thought it'd be exactly like Europe but cheaper. Although it's quite possibly they're now back home whining how great America was.
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Old 01-10-2011, 09:28 PM
 
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My dad's grandparents came to the United States from Luxembourg.
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Old 01-11-2011, 06:08 AM
 
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Food here is not cheaper than in Europe. My inlaws (from Germany) always mention how expensive food is here. No doubt that it is. But people here are friendly and the weather is awesome (after you get over the initial shock of how hot your first summer will be). You will be lucky to have health insurance through your employment because .... well I'm sure you know about the whole heath care ideolgy crisis over here... One think that you better be ready for, is that most companies work their workers to the bone here. Be ready to enter the true rat race when you come here. In all, it's a great landing place, Welcome!
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Old 01-11-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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You'll get far fewer vacation days off here, too, unless you negotiate something better now.

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Food here is not cheaper than in Europe. My inlaws (from Germany) always mention how expensive food is here. No doubt that it is. But people here are friendly and the weather is awesome (after you get over the initial shock of how hot your first summer will be). You will be lucky to have health insurance through your employment because .... well I'm sure you know about the whole heath care ideolgy crisis over here... One think that you better be ready for, is that most companies work their workers to the bone here. Be ready to enter the true rat race when you come here. In all, it's a great landing place, Welcome!
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:51 AM
 
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I am American, but lived in Austria, and Sweden and then lived in Singapore for 7 years before moving to Raleigh. Groceries in the united states are cheaper compared to europe, except maybe some veggies and fruit (grapes are a good example). The saddest thing is where to find good bread, but you can go to Gugelhupf in Durham. The tax thing alone is a reason to move to the USA. If you are coming as an expat here, then your company will probably pick up the medical insurance. IF you have kids, Raleigh is a great place to live, with so many parks, fantastic kids museums and beaches and mountains within a few hours drive.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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My momma, from Gschwend, talks about bread as well. She said once how it 'offended' her parents when my dad (military) asked for white bread.

I'm sorry I cannot compare/contrast and give you any ideas on the culture shock. I only know of stories my momma tells me about skiing to school (which she calls a gymnasium) and stories of 35+ years ago.

But I will say welcome!
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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My momma, from Gschwend, talks about bread as well. She said once how it 'offended' her parents when my dad (military) asked for white bread.

I'm sorry I cannot compare/contrast and give you any ideas on the culture shock. I only know of stories my momma tells me about skiing to school (which she calls a gymnasium) and stories of 35+ years ago.

But I will say welcome!
Agree that (fresh) food here is vastly more expensive. It works out at about $1 an apple in harris teeter!

Any decent job will provide medical insurance, certainly any one worth moving countries for. I wouldn't worry about it.

When working out your tax rate, I'd probably include your medical premiums (deducted by your employer) to get a like for like comparison.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:58 AM
 
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I used to listen to "Radio Luxenbourg" in the UK in the 60's or early 70's? Does that count?!

Anyhow, yes, you will find things cheaper here. And the issue of medical coverage has to be looked at carefully. How much you pay depends on who you work for. Some companies have better coverage, lower rates than others.

if you plan to move here in the summer then you should be prepared for hi temps and humidity. Other that this, it's a neat place. Great for families.
I bet your radio didn't stay on station for more than a minute though! Jimmy Saville and Alan Freeman. Then I 'jumped ship' and went to Radio Caroline
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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I bet your radio didn't stay on station for more than a minute though! Jimmy Saville and Alan Freeman. Then I 'jumped ship' and went to Radio Caroline
haha! I almost mentioned Radio Caroline! Yes, I did the same as you. In the 70's I worked at a local Ral studio and knew a guy for a few months before finding out he was a DJ on Caroline...blew my mind! I enjoyed hearing his stories which matched up with my listener experience of losing the signal when the navy was chasing them. There is a thread on CD where we touched upon this and heard from another one or two listeners. Been meaning to see the movie "Pirate Radio".

'scuse us for getting off track
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Old 01-11-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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I think most restaurant meals here are cheaper (in Raleigh, New York is, of course, probably more expensive). And Diet Coke (or Coke Light) is WAY cheaper lol. I was just in Luxembourg a month ago, actually. Went to Vianden castle. My sister lives in Brussels so we went and had dinner with some of her friends up in Luxembourg. Very nice people. Except the whole family wore Crocs which makes me giggle...but very nice people!

My comparison to Brussels (since I spent more time there than Luxembourg, you will have to make the comparison between Brussels and Luxembourg...):
- Most everything is cheaper except, obviously, health care. And maybe fresh produce, as someone mentioned.
- People are more friendly. Be aware that sometimes they are honestly friendly and sometimes it's just being polite and they aren't necessarily your friends. But being open and friendly will make you lots of friends. I found people in Brussels to be much more suspicious and guarded.
- More optimistic/positive.
- Less liberal/socialist. In western europe, the two parties seemed to be democrat and socialist where here it is republican and democrat...so you will probably experience a one step shift to the right, on average.
- Housing is both nicer and less nice...it tends to be newer and have less serious issues but also tends to not have the character and antiqueness that makes old buildings cool. American culture is very disposable-oriented and this translates in many ways to products, houses, cars, etc. Cars and houses get fixed but most other things are more expensive to fix then to buy a new one.
- Very limited public transport (in Raleigh...big cities are different). That said, you can drive anywhere cheaper and faster than you could with subway+walking.
- Walmart/Target type stores where you can pick up everything in one trip...I missed this more than anything else when I was in Europe. Between having to go to 4 different stores and the fact that i had to walk to the subway, take the subway, then walk to the store, by the time I got done shopping, it took me all day.
- Big name American beer sucks, compared to Belgium at least, but it's very affordable. There are beer specialty places that actually serve good European beer, though (Raleigh Times, Flying Saucer). Ironically, it probably costs the same amount here as it does in Belgium, even though it's imported. Actually, this is true of many European products...I found I could get most things European things that I wanted...cheaper on the internet than I could buy them directly in Europe.
- Lower taxes (not sure how that affects you).
- Less social welfare programs.
- Ahm, less chocolate places...and no street waffle vendors! Street waffles are genius and it's one of the things that I can't comprehend why we haven't copied them.
- I would comment on dating differences but if you are married with children, those may not be of interest to you
- Service oriented stores. While a lot of them are underpaid and may not care, there is a much greater tendency to get good customer service. Most large retailers and restaurants train employees to be friendly to customers.
- Tipping. In the US, waiters and similar professions often get paid half of minimum wage (maybe $2.50-3 an hour at low end restaurants) but make that up in tips. It is customary to tip ~15% of the meals price on average, give or take 5% for good/bad service.
- We don't really have 'manifestations' except maybe rarely in DC and a couple other major cities. Certainly not in Raleigh.
- More obese people AND more superfit people. We kind of polarize on this one.
- Less green, less recycling. Guess that kind of goes with less liberal...
- More lazy in terms of daily life/chores (couch potatos, driving everywhere, etc.) but also less lazy in terms of working and having a job. Pretty strong work ethic.
- More individualistic.
- No super discounted RyanAir flights lol

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