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Old 10-08-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Williston, VT
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I'm not sure if this would be an okay board to put this question on, so I apologize if it's not.

If someone is trespassing on your property with their atv and gets hurt doing so is the homeowner liable? We are in Johnston County if that helps. I'm not sure where I should look to find that information.

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Old 10-08-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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If someone is trespassing (or even breaking and entering) on your property (with their atv or anything else) and gets hurt doing so is the homeowner liable?
When you say liable... that gets into what the final score will be at the end of the game. The larger and quite real issue is whether this person can force you into playing that (courts, lawyers, lawsuits) game at all.
And yes, they very often can.

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In other words, a burglar fell through a skylight, and blamed the skylight’s owners for his injuries; because the law permits such suits, and because the law does not compensate defendants for successful defenses...
If your property has nice cleared trails suitable for atv use that could be construed as an "attractive nuisance" (like a swimming pool is) or you know of a special risk (like an unmarked 30 foot drop off on that trail)... the property owners can be expected to take reasonable measures to prevent exposure to these.

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Surprising to many homeowners is the fact that a duty is also owed to those without permission to be on the premises. A trespasser is a person who enters the premises of another without express or implied permission of the owner, for the trespasser's own benefit or amusement. The duty of the owner to a trespasser is not to prepare pitfalls or traps for the trespasser nor to injure the trespasser purposely. Once the owner is aware of the trespasser's presence or can reasonably anticipate such presence from the circumstances, (EVIDENCE of skateboarders in an unfinished swimming pool would fall into this category) then the owner has a duty to exercise ordinary care to avoid injuring the trespasser.

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Old 10-08-2011, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Williston, VT
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We don't have any cleared trails, it's just woodsy properties, we've maintained just over half of our property and left the rest as natural, which also means there are natural hazards.

Thank you for that source. What is hth though?
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:22 PM
 
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NC has some pretty good homeowner oriented laws. Specifically, if someone injures themselves on your property they must be able to prove that you knew about the problem (ie loose step) and you did nothing to fix it. You can't just trip on grass and sue (and win) in NC. To your question, I really don't know, maybe try contacting a lawyer. You could even pretend you were the one on the ATV to get the other side of it, the lawyer might offer up more info for free at that point (thinking he'd have a case).

Also, some well posted "No trespassing" signs probably go a long way as well.

This is one aspect of America that I don't like.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:34 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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What is hth though?
(an acronym) hope that helps

As wheels up said...
some well posted "No trespassing" signs probably go a long way as well.

And maybe even a string or two of barbed wire where they cross in.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Williston, VT
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Thank you both! HTH, I should have figured that one out!

I hadn't wanted to put up the signs, but I'd rather those out there than any issues with potential injury.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:52 PM
 
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And maybe even a string or two of barbed wire where they cross in.
umm, no. Great way for a lawsuit however.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:17 AM
 
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(an acronym) hope that helps

As wheels up said...
some well posted "No trespassing" signs probably go a long way as well.

And maybe even a string or two of barbed wire where they cross in.
If you use a string or barbed wire then it must be visible to the trespasser or else you can be liable for their injuries, as long as it is posted that you have installed barb wire or string and they are displayed on the trail/route/land.
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Morrisville
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I think (and hope) Rational was kidding.

unclench people.
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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Hope so too, that's why I posted about making them visible. Happened in the past where we were riding and someone had strung a barb wire across a public trail and if it wasn't for our leader seeing it prior, some major damage could have happen.
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