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Old 12-18-2012, 06:17 AM
 
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Downplaying it looks even worse.
I'll tell you what looks bad. People cherry picking crime statistics to put down other cities. Each town / city in the Triangle has it struggles with crime. If you are a WRAL junkie I guess you might get paranoid after a while and start thinking entire cities are "unsafe". However, as somebody who lives in the real world with experiences beyond 15 second sound bites from the 6 o'clock news, I sometimes have to sit back and wonder in amazement at the ignorant stuff I see posted on this forum.

 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Wake Forest CSA
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I'll tell you what looks bad. People cherry picking crime statistics to put down other cities. Each town / city in the Triangle has it struggles with crime. If you are a WRAL junkie I guess you might get paranoid after a while and start thinking entire cities are "unsafe". However, as somebody who lives in the real world with experiences beyond 15 second sound bites from the 6 o'clock news, I sometimes have to sit back and wonder in amazement at the ignorant stuff I see posted on this forum.
Well you don't like WRAL. Let's try the Hearald Sun. Hmm seems this is the 14th attack this year so far.

Another tobacco trail user attacked | The Herald-Sun
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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I don't think it's over-sensitivity...anybody is going to get frustrated if they hear a mistruth/mischaracterization over and over again, and want to set things straight. And it's especially maddening when a person is repeating what they've "heard" and they've never set foot in the city. I remember a girl telling me that Durham was "just like Baltimore", but she'd never even BEEN to Durham.
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I'd put $5 on her not having been to Baltimore either.
I had the same thought, but you beat me to it Peperobereto!
 
Old 12-18-2012, 07:04 AM
 
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Well you don't like WRAL. Let's try the Hearald Sun. Hmm seems this is the 14th attack this year so far.

Another tobacco trail user attacked | The Herald-Sun

The Tobacco Trail ≠ Durham.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Downtown Durham, NC
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Well you don't like WRAL. Let's try the Hearald Sun. Hmm seems this is the 14th attack this year so far.

Another tobacco trail user attacked | The Herald-Sun
Last estimate I saw was around 140,000 users of the trail in Durham County every year (about 400 users a day which I think is a huge under-count, but it's an estimate). 14 total reported crimes for ~134,000 users (adjusting for the 2 weeks still left in the year) leads us to a crime rate of 1.04 per 10,000 users.

So, becoming the victim of a crime on the American Tobacco Trail literally a 1-in-10,000 probability event. Or roughly 7.5 times lower than your chance of being the victim of a violent crime in Cary during the course of one year.

(note to statistician's- I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here, but it's for demonstrative purposes so I'm going to go ahead and do it.)
 
Old 12-18-2012, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Wake Forest CSA
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The Tobacco Trail ≠ Durham.

Your post = Denial.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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Well you don't like WRAL. Let's try the Hearald Sun. Hmm seems this is the 14th attack this year so far.

Another tobacco trail user attacked | The Herald-Sun
I don't see your point. Your post isn't any more statistically significant than somebody from Durham bashing Raleigh about the disgusting incident a few weeks ago when several Raleigh teens allegedly murdered a homless man.

Wake might try Raleigh teens accused in homeless man's death as adults - Crime/Safety - NewsObserver.com

Let's stop the madness. Posts like these are akin to animals slinging feces at one another.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Wake Forest CSA
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Last estimate I saw was around 140,000 users of the trail in Durham County every year (about 400 users a day which I think is a huge under-count, but it's an estimate). 14 total reported crimes for ~134,000 users (adjusting for the 2 weeks still left in the year) leads us to a crime rate of 1.04 per 10,000 users.

So, becoming the victim of a crime on the American Tobacco Trail literally a 1-in-10,000 probability event. Or roughly 7.5 times lower than your chance of being the victim of a violent crime in Cary during the course of one year.

(note to statistician's- I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here, but it's for demonstrative purposes so I'm going to go ahead and do it.)

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Old 12-18-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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The Tobacco Trail ≠ Durham.
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Your post = Denial.
Dark of the Moon is in "denial" that the American Tobacco Trail is, in fact, Durham?
 
Old 12-18-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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All I'm saying -- and remember that I don't live in the area, so have no "dog" in this fight -- is that the Tobacco Trail may or may not be representative of Durham as a whole, and that basing one's perceptions of crime on that alone is kinda silly.

Just MHO, of course.
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