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Old 02-21-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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When do you bet our last frost date will be this spring. NCSU says the average is March 30th. Last year I got away with planting around March 10th. Do I tempt the frost gods again this year?
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:30 PM
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ive always waited until after april 15th
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Here's the Farmers Almanac guess: 2013 Best Spring Planting Dates for Seeds for Raleigh, NC

I started my seedlings a couple weeks ago, but I am tilling my beds this weekend and will throw out some more seeds for cool weather things...spinach, lettuces, carrots, maybe some cabbage and broccoli. If they germinate and don't get nipped, great. If not, I'll still have my seedlings to transplant.

Are you thinking of transplanting warm weather stuff early? I'll probably brave March 30th for that but no sooner. I would be surprised if we get frost after the 15th this year since it's been so mild, but I wouldn't bet my seedlings on it. :-)
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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Ya roll your dice, and take your chances.

I seem to remember that as warm as last winter was - the strawberry farmers had to spray/ice their berries the third week in April - although the 15th is usually regarded as safe for frost in this area.

But soil temps are important too - for seeds and seedlings.

Good chart about halfway down on this page -

Temperature effect on vegetable seeds - percentage germination

Frank
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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April 15th is what I've always gone by, too, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that moving up with global warming.

Here's a nice map:

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/c...ingfreeze.html

it's based on dates thru 1998.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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I've always put cuke/zuch/squash seeds in the ground April 1st, and moved my indoor tomato and pepper starts out (which I start indoors around Valentine's Day) on April 15th, assuming there's no frost in the forecast.

It's the safest way to do it, and I always seem to get early veggies, so it's habit for me now.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:50 AM
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That's why the call it an average. You will have a 50-50 chance (if it follows a normal distribution) of the temp being higher or lower.
"The "mean" is the "average" you're used to, where you add up all the numbers and then divide by the number of numbers. The "median" is the "middle" value in the list of numbers. To find the median, your numbers have to be listed in numerical order, so you may have to rewrite your list first. The "mode" is the value that occurs most often. If no number is repeated, then there is no mode for the list.

The "range" is just the difference between the largest and smallest values."


Probably more info than what you wanted but most folks think that the "average" is an absolute value.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:32 AM
 
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I've always put cuke/zuch/squash seeds in the ground April 1st, and moved my indoor tomato and pepper starts out (which I start indoors around Valentine's Day) on April 15th, assuming there's no frost in the forecast.

It's the safest way to do it, and I always seem to get early veggies, so it's habit for me now.
April 1st - cuke/squash, etc.

April 15th - tomato, pepper plants. (I get mine from Craig, the Tomato Guy at the Raleigh Farmer's Market as I have limited luck with starting my own.)

What date do you usually plant your peas and greens? March 15?
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:42 AM
 
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April 1st - cuke/squash, etc.

April 15th - tomato, pepper plants. (I get mine from Craig, the Tomato Guy at the Raleigh Farmer's Market as I have limited luck with starting my own.)

What date do you usually plant your peas and greens? March 15?
Peas and greens are in March
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:19 AM
 
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I think you can do peas and greens a lot earlier. You can overwinter many greens as well. Peas need it cold. March 15th is almost too late to start them. It will get too hot before they can mature. I'd start in Jan or Feb.

NC State Vegetable Garden Planting Guide
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