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Old 09-13-2013, 05:46 AM
 
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Jackie Wenzel told WTVD she had her kids in the car when she passed by Triangle’s Worshipping Church on Fayetteville Road and saw this message: Sex before marriage has killed a lot of babies.”


Wenzel isn’t bothered by the message of the sign, but she said the wording forced her to have a conversation with her young children that she wasn’t prepared to have.


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Old 09-13-2013, 06:28 AM
 
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No one can force you to have a conversation with your children that you don't want to have.

Here's the answer when your kids ask you something that you don't want to discuss with them, for whatever reason (age appropriateness, time and place, whatever):

I don't know.

See how easy that is?
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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No one can force you to have a conversation with your children that you don't want to have.

Here's the answer when your kids ask you something that you don't want to discuss with them, for whatever reason (age appropriateness, time and place, whatever):

I don't know.

See how easy that is?
Yup.

I hate it when people say a sign forced them to have a talk. Or seeing a homosexual couple forced them to have a talk.

No. It did not. Nobody forced you to have a talk you did not want to have.

You are the adult. You control that situation.

Sign you don't like? Go with "I'm not sure what the owner of that sign is trying to convey, son."

Kid asks you about homosexual couple? Go with "Some people like other people who are the same gender as them."

It's pretty steaightforward. Kids, especially young ones, ask a ton of questions. They rarely want lengthy explanations for them.

Older kids should be talked to about these things already.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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Although I find the sign ridiculous , so is the reaction of a supposed 'adult' in the car.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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I think y'all have a good point on this particular instance, but I disagree that you can always brush aside signs and other images that are thrown in our kids' faces. I went to a wedding once in a church that was very anti-abortion and the front of the church was filled with images of aborted fetuses. I didn't have kids at the time, but it's hard to brush off something like that. Seeing graphic images of porn or violence are also hard to brush off, "Mommy, why does that lady not have on any clothes?, Mommy what is that man doing to her?" Similarly once the kids are able to read seeing bumper stickers that say "F*ck this *****" and other similar sentiments can lead to questions from the small fry. T-shirts are another big offender in both the words used and the images. We can't protect our kids from all this stuff, but I get where the mom was coming from and you can't always sidestep it.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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I think y'all have a good point on this particular instance, but I disagree that you can always brush aside signs and other images that are thrown in our kids' faces. I went to a wedding once in a church that was very anti-abortion and the front of the church was filled with images of aborted fetuses. I didn't have kids at the time, but it's hard to brush off something like that. Seeing graphic images of porn or violence are also hard to brush off, "Mommy, why does that lady not have on any clothes?, Mommy what is that man doing to her?" Similarly once the kids are able to read seeing bumper stickers that say "F*ck this *****" and other similar sentiments can lead to questions from the small fry. T-shirts are another big offender in both the words used and the images. We can't protect our kids from all this stuff, but I get where the mom was coming from and you can't always sidestep it.
If I walked into a church and saw pictures of aborted fetuses my arse wouldn't even hit the pew and I don't care if Jesus himself rose from the dead to officiate that wedding.

Porn, extremely graphic violence - come on - if your 5 year old is watching porn etc you've got bigger issues than explaining a sign on the highway and you're probably not the kind of parent who cares anyway. Bumper stickers, my kids are teenagers and still think they have to sit in the back seat.

We can extrapolate this out to many different scenarios, the bottom line is many of us are tired of peoples' inability to parent becoming newsworthy. That's what this thread is about. A woman sees a sign, has a conversation she doesn't want to have and YES SHE CAN avoid that conversation. If her kids are old enough to have the discussion, then have it.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:56 AM
 
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Triangle’s Worshipping Church on Fayetteville Road and saw this message: Sex before marriage has killed a lot of babies.”
Aside from the mother's difficulty in talking with her children, what kind of sign is this to have in front of a church?

In the first place, sex creates babies, regardless of whether it occurs before or after the wedding.

And birth control prevents babies. How about putting that on the sign?

Instead of all this shaming and finger pointing and carrying on about how this or that is an abomination against the Lord, how about, "Love one another as I have loved you."

Now that would be something to put on a sign in front of a church.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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It's a good thing they did not ride by this vet clinic
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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While the mom's reaction was extreme, I don't like reading others' beliefs that may be controversial, and don't like having them plastered in public for people to read. People are entitled to their opinions, but others should not have to see/read them. It's not about having to explain to my kids (although I am tired of being asked what viagra is since now the commercials are on in the evenings), it's just the idea of putting out there what some know is controversial and some things kids don't need to see.

When I was in college and waiting tables, there was a clinic across the street. there were often protesters with the aborted fetuses posters and bloodied dolls hanging by nooses, among other things. they were not allowed within X feet from the clinic, so there stood outside of the restaurant putting on their show. We lost customers as we had walls of windows and no one should be forced to look at something they dont want to.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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Exactly, goodbyesnow — sometimes it's just in your face and you can't do anything about. Porn might not be the best example, but there are some lingerie ads that are pretty darn close to porn. You don't have to be riding in the front seat to see bumper stickers. You can walk right past them in the parking lot and see plenty of four-letter words on t-shirts anywhere. My kids are old enough now that they pretty much know quite a few of the four-letter words anyway, but I don't think they know all of them yet (the anatomical ones in particular) and I'd rather not be assaulted by them and some images (protestors with the aborted baby pictures is a great example, also anti-war protestors with graphic images and animal rights advocates with graphic images).

The vet pictures are great and I think the innuendo in most of those (except maybe the live nude dogs one) would sail right over most 2nd grader's heads.
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