Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina > Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Cary
 [Register]
Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Cary The Triangle Area
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-12-2014, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Oxxford Hunt, Cary NC
4,478 posts, read 11,620,809 times
Reputation: 4263

Advertisements

Your gas bill seems kind of high considering how cold you keep the house. I used 132 therms (33% more than last year) and I keep my thermostat between 68 & 72. I have a 92% furnace.

That said, I remember that my gas bill didn't decrease all that much when I replaced a 22 year old system several years ago. My electric bill in the summer dropped substantially but I also put in new windows that same year.

Anyhow, maybe ask your HVAC company to come check over the system and make sure everything is running as it should.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-12-2014, 07:10 AM
 
18,088 posts, read 15,670,593 times
Reputation: 26794
I've just emailed my HVAC guy and attached the chart I included here. The system I got is considered a mid-range standard system, not a "low efficiency" system. Consider that the one in place before was even lower efficiency (maybe 60% to 70%?).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-12-2014, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Wake Forest, NY
613 posts, read 746,452 times
Reputation: 637
80% is not efficient by today's standards. For every $100 in gas you buy $20 is wasted. I would imagine payback for a 92% -95% furnace would have been less than 5 years and also be a selling point if you sold the house. A 80% furnace would be a negative to most home buyers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-12-2014, 07:34 AM
 
18,088 posts, read 15,670,593 times
Reputation: 26794
Oh well, guess I'm screwed then.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-12-2014, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Wake Forest, NY
613 posts, read 746,452 times
Reputation: 637
Do you have at least 12 inches of insulation in your attic?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-12-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Cary
2,863 posts, read 4,677,993 times
Reputation: 3466
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlos_Danger View Post
80% is not efficient by today's standards. For every $100 in gas you buy $20 is wasted. I would imagine payback for a 92% -95% furnace would have been less than 5 years and also be a selling point if you sold the house. A 80% furnace would be a negative to most home buyers.
I'm hoping that an HVAC guy/gal will chime in on this. I have two high efficiency furnaces. The people that service my equipment stated that they would not have recommended H.E. for my upstairs system. I forgot the reason why. My neighbors had their two systems updated this summer and I'm pretty sure that they went with a non HE upstairs as well.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-12-2014, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
43,291 posts, read 77,115,925 times
Reputation: 45657
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlos_Danger View Post
Do you have at least 12 inches of insulation in your attic?
But the comparison is really year over year, between different equipment and widely divergent temperatures.

More insulation and tightening up a 25 year old home can always offer more comfort, but won't explain the different usage.
Basically, it was a MUCH colder heating period this year over last.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-12-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
4,254 posts, read 3,175,378 times
Reputation: 4701
While 6 degrees colder may not seem like much it s VERY significant!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-12-2014, 09:01 AM
 
18,088 posts, read 15,670,593 times
Reputation: 26794
Well I just spoke with my HVAC guy (who Mike J knows as well).

First of all, it is incorrect that in an 80% efficient furnace "$20 out of every $100 of gas purchased is thrown away" (as Carlos claimed in a post above). According to my HVAC expert, that is simply not true.

And, more importantly, a 90% efficiency combo gas pack/electric unit doesn't exist in the brand (Trane) and the only way to get a 90% efficiency solution for my downstairs, which does most of the heavy-lifting when it comes to heating my 2 story home, would be to engineer a split system, which would have required some significant additional costs for the labor to make that switch, along with higher equipment costs.

To do the upstairs with a 90% would have also required re-engineering, including roof work to convert the existing metal flue pipework to PVC, and some other construction.

It would have added probably $4K - $5K additional cost to the project.

However, I will be getting a service call to check to make sure there isn't fast cycling or any kind of other problem (like a leak) that is causing increased usage of gas, relative to the colder temps.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-12-2014, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Wake Forest, NY
613 posts, read 746,452 times
Reputation: 637
80% efficient means the furnace turns 80% of the fuel (gas) into heat, 20% is wasted. I am starting to think you may a good decision because apparently the 80% furnaces are being phased out. The new standard will be 90%.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina > Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Cary
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:28 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top