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"Police are investigating after someone spray-painted the words "murderer" and "black lives matter" on the "Silent Sam" Confederate memorial on the campus of UNC Chapel Hill."
"Police are investigating after someone spray-painted the words "murderer" and "black lives matter" on the "Silent Sam" Confederate memorial on the campus of UNC Chapel Hill."
"Police are investigating after someone spray-painted the words "murderer" and "black lives matter" on the "Silent Sam" Confederate memorial on the campus of UNC Chapel Hill."
Lets see if the UNC leadership has enough backbone to stand up to the forces that wish to sanitize our history.
It would be absolutely wonderful if people could just get over themselves and recognize that some individuals find this kind of iconography distasteful and insulting and remove it.
All of this has become an exercise in stubbornness.
It would be absolutely wonderful if people could just get over themselves and recognize that some individuals find this kind of iconography distasteful and insulting and remove it.
And some don't, and wish it to remain.
And some on both sides recognize the value that exists in acknowledging our history, both good and bad. Some know that only through open discussion is progress made, discussion that can't occur if our history is eradicated. Some understand that attempting to sanitize our past is a fools errand. I would think a history teacher would understand and advocate for that...after all, its what history teachers do for a living. If we don't care about history, and wish to pretend it never happened, then why bother to learn it.
This has nothing to do with anyone getting over themselves. Except perhaps for a few small minded dolts who place their feelings above all else.
Last edited by carolinadawg2; 07-06-2015 at 12:59 PM..
It would be absolutely wonderful if people could just get over themselves and recognize that some individuals find this kind of iconography distasteful and insulting and remove it.
All of this has become an exercise in stubbornness.
Why remove a war memorial for UNC students who died and has stood for over 100 years? If folks want to read more into it than that, I can't stop them. It isn't like we are talking about a flag that was raised over state capitals to protest the integration of schools.
Why remove a war memorial for UNC students who died and has stood for over 100 years? If folks want to read more into it than that, I can't stop them. It isn't like we are talking about a flag that was raised over state capitals to protest the integration of schools.
because we must censor the root of perceived offense
And some on both sides recognize the value that exists in acknowledging our history, both good and bad. Some know that only through open discussion is progress made, discussion that can't occur if our history is eradicated. Some understand that attempting to sanitize our past is a fools errand. I would think a history teacher would understand and advocate for that...after all, its what history teachers do for a living. If we don't care about history, and wish to pretend it never happened, then why bother to learn it.
This has nothing to do with anyone getting over themselves. Except perhaps for a few small minded dolts who place their feelings above all else.
Discussion also cannot and will never occur as long as these symbols have associations with radical racism. Whether it is justified or not, it is all futile.
And as a history teacher, I recognize that a discussion on this or any topic is not dependent on a monument or memorial. Germans don't need statues of Erwin Rommel or Fritz Christen to remember the importance of WWII/the NSDAP, or to have discussions on its (or their) significance. The argument that these monuments need to stick around lest our history be eradicated and all discussions on the matter ended are absurd. I advocate for understanding real history, not a monumentalization of it.
Discussion also cannot and will never occur as long as these symbols have associations with radical racism.
And as a history teacher, I recognize that a discussion on this or any topic is not dependent on a monument or memorial. Germans don't need statues of Erwin Rommel or Fritz Christen to remember the importance of WWII/the NSDAP, or to have discussions on its (or their) significance. The argument that these monuments need to stick around lest our history be eradicated and all discussions on the matter ended are absurd. I advocate for understanding real history, not a monumentalization of it.
Hogwash. And the UNC statue is representative of students who died in the war. It doesn't memorialize the confederate leadership.
There are many monuments and memorials to everyday WW2 German soldiers throughout that country.
Real history includes ALL of it...not just the part you're comfortable with.
Last edited by carolinadawg2; 07-06-2015 at 01:46 PM..
I'm about as far from a confederate flag wearer as you can imagine.
However, sheerly as a psychological question to ponder, why would anyone be under the impression that making a point by committing a crime, particularly such a filthy crime as spray painting a monument, is a good way to create support for their cause, or respect for themselves or the group they want represent?
It's kind of like saying "damnit, I'm a kind-hearted, nice guy who would not hurt a flea and if you don't accept that I'll knock you out, mofo!"
Committing vandalism is not a very smart way to protest something or to gain respect of the public.
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Discussion also cannot and will never occur as long as these symbols have associations with radical racism. Whether it is justified or not, it is all futile.
And as a history teacher, I recognize that a discussion on this or any topic is not dependent on a monument or memorial. Germans don't need statues of Erwin Rommel or Fritz Christen to remember the importance of WWII/the NSDAP, or to have discussions on its (or their) significance. The argument that these monuments need to stick around lest our history be eradicated and all discussions on the matter ended are absurd. I advocate for understanding real history, not a monumentalization of it.
Germans most certainly have monuments to the WWII dead, both the civilians & those who were forced into the military & never returned. I've seen them.
What is the difference between a wall or several walls with names or a single generic soldier who represents those names?
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