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Old 02-27-2021, 01:53 PM
 
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What might have worked for Atlanta was a tolled, commercial-vehicle-only, super-two Outer Perimeter with exits only at the other Interstates. This would have kept the heavy truck traffic off 285, and it would have been less expensive to build. It would also have defused the sprawl argument and provided no opportunity for profiteering by landowners.
Of course, trucks (and their drivers) need fuel/food/restrooms as well, so some service interchanges will be needed in addition to the system ones. I'd add major US or State routes as well as Interstates, which might serve as service interchanges as well. Of course, in theory they could capture all the service income with service centers (which would need access to local roads for employees and deliveries.)

And then, the reality that the road has to go across somebody's (and some county's) land, and cross somebody else's road, so then politics come in and say "we only get the "pain" of the road, so we need an exit." And there goes the free-flow of the road.

Same thing with trains. We want to improve travel time between Charlotte and Raleigh (for example.) So the tracks are upgraded to get higher speeds (although not European-level, of course.) But then, Hillsborough, Graham, Lexington, Kannapolis and others want stops. And there goes the fast(er) train.
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:45 PM
 
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Hillsborough, Graham, Lexington, Kannapolis and others want stops. And there goes the fast(er) train.
Yes. Hillsborough is going to get one and Lexington too. Kannapolis has one already.

NCDOT could choose to run some trains as express... for example, a train originating in Raleigh that stops only at Cary, Durham, Greensboro, maybe Salisbury, and Charlotte. But as far as I know, the idea isn't under consideration. Nobody talks much anymore about the 2 hr 30 min objective for Raleigh-Charlotte -- but without hundreds of millions of dollars to straighten the line, 2 hr 30 min just isn't achievable with 7 intermediate stops, much less 9.
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Old 02-27-2021, 07:12 PM
 
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Yes. Hillsborough is going to get one and Lexington too. Kannapolis has one already.

NCDOT could choose to run some trains as express... for example, a train originating in Raleigh that stops only at Cary, Durham, Greensboro, maybe Salisbury, and Charlotte. But as far as I know, the idea isn't under consideration. Nobody talks much anymore about the 2 hr 30 min objective for Raleigh-Charlotte -- but without hundreds of millions of dollars to straighten the line, 2 hr 30 min just isn't achievable with 7 intermediate stops, much less 9.
The Piedmont service will likely continue to make all of these regional stops. If/when we ever get high(er[ish]) speed service to Virginia via the S-Line shortcut and additional services to go with it, we may see some kind of express/limited service and some of these stations skipped.
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Old 02-27-2021, 07:47 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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so what caused raleigh to eclipse durham, in this fashion, how fascinating
...A little company called International Business Machines.
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