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Old 07-03-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Apex, NC
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The rule for pilots is you can't fly if you've had a drink in the previous 8 hours. That's the rule I apply to myself when flying or driving.
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Old 07-03-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Apex
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Uh... Tiger damaged his reputation terribly years ago.
Even at that, he needs to be a winner and he will be OK.
I think no less of him for the latest, and I do agree with you that we judge by social media far too readilyand far too harshly.
I chose Tiger as an example because of the recent brush with the law and its relevance to this particular subject. I figured the incident is fresh in everyone's mind, so nobody would need to search for or read specific disjointed examples.

The infidelity (which is none of our business actually) and careless driving incident (on private property) was a result of his own behavior and a case of someone achieving high levels of fame and wealth and managing their life poorly, by his own admission. Affairs aren't a criminal action and careless driving charges are relatively minor.

The DUI charge was something that was completely beyond his control, yet ultimately reflects just as negatively on his career (if not more so) than the misgivings which were. He did a few things wrong in the first incident, while technically he didn't in the second. That, plus the relevance of the second incident to this thread is why I was speaking of it as a solo event.
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Old 07-03-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: West Raleigh
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So let's say that I had been drinking earlier in the night but then was stopped at the checkpoint even though I was under the legal limit - what should I say/do? (remember the officer asking if I had been drinking at all that night - luckily I hadn't that night but if I was....)
I kind of hope someone has an answer to this, as I've always wondered myself. For example, if I have a single beer at say, 7:00pm with dinner and then am driving home at 10:30pm or so, how do I answer that question?
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:23 PM
 
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I kind of hope someone has an answer to this, as I've always wondered myself. For example, if I have a single beer at say, 7:00pm with dinner and then am driving home at 10:30pm or so, how do I answer that question?
Honestly the cards are stacked so against you that I don't think it even matters what you say as far as getting arrested goes. If the cop has any suspicion that you've you're over the limit, you're getting arrested.

Not sure if NC is included, but most states if you refuse a field breathalyzer, it's automatic loss of license for usually 6 months. I don't think field breathalyzers are even admissible in court, but yet if you refuse one, automatic punishment.

I've been told that unless you have any doubt whatsoever that you're under the legal limit, then you should always refuse the field breathalyzer. You'll be arrested on the spot, but there's a better chance of the charge being lowered or dropped. This gets hairy if you've had a couple beers with dinner or something - cause who knows right? It's really set up in a way that you can't win.

Again, I'm not condoning drunk driving. My belief is there should be a scaled punishment depending on what your BAC is at time of testing (at the station on the real machine). Someone at a .08 shouldn't get the same punishment as someone at .24.
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I've been struggling with this same issue on what to say as well. If I had a beer at my 7pm dinner, and then have to stop at a 10pm checkpoint and the officers asks, "Have you had anything to drink tonight?"

If I say "yes" it will lead to much further questioning. And then is he/she going to believe I had only 1 drink with dinner or they are going to suspect more? I would be hoping that they would be able to notice if I was "looking or acting" intoxicated.

Or I could just say "no" and avoid all this mess of questioning and threat of taking a breathalyzer. Most people who have only 1 drink 3 hours ago along with food should have very minimal effects on you.
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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These kinds of DWI check points are a source of a lot of debate. The police cannot search you without cause to think you have committed a crime and they can't have a cause to suspect you are over the limit (committed a crime) without doing a field sobriety test or a breath test. Just having bad breath is not cause to arrest you.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...lich/23236797/
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Old 07-03-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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Well, the law doesn't agree with you. You're welcome to your opinion though.

I'm sure you have never done anything illegal behind the wheel of a car.
Thanks so much for allowing me my opinion.
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Old 07-03-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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and another example of how these thugs continue to infringe upon our rights under the banner of reven....er....safety.

Edit - cleaned up typos
Thugs ??
If you want respect from police maybe you should show respect.
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Old 07-03-2017, 09:59 PM
 
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Ironically, leaving a brewery to see a local band Saturday night in an area I'd never been to before, as soon as I pulled out of the back road there was a police Explorer right turning onto the same main road as me. The only thing at night on that back road is the brewery so they knew from where I coming.

I had half a 5% beer and was there less than an hour so it was still in me and I was perfectly ok to drive.

It being dark and unfamiliar, I wasn't sure of my way and approached a couple of turns awkwardly, trying to see and read the GPS and not draw attention to myself. I even made two wrong turns. I was really surprised I didn't get pulled over.
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Old 07-03-2017, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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I drove up 55 earlier and I was surprised there wasn't a cop sitting between Hopson and Kit Creek. They love to sit off the south bound lane and run radar there, or sit in the median. There was a cop there on Friday night though.
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