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Old 03-19-2008, 07:22 AM
 
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Again...I've lived here for 30 years. It always amazes me that those from other states always begin complaining after being here about 3 years. The complaint? They want the "others" to stop coming!!!

Do you see the irony???

Vicki
I will have been here for 3 years come May. On that magical day I look forward the transformation that will turn me into a grumpy transplant who desires to close the door behind me......

Just kidding!
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I will have been here for 3 years come May. On that magical day I look forward the transformation that will turn me into a grumpy transplant who desires to close the door behind me......

Just kidding!
Silly NRG...you can't just "close the door", we have to put up a FENCE!!!

Vicki
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:19 AM
 
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Hopefully, the influx won't drive prices up to NY, NJ, and CA levels.

In NC, raising taxes is not taken lightly. Let's hope it stays that way.

Hope the Summer doesn't make you wish you didn't come here.
The CA exodus of the late 80's early 90's did the same thing to the Pacific Northwest. There was a saying: "Don't Californicate the Pacific Northwest". And like I see here with some comments on these forums, people tend to jump to the same conclusions. We are leaving the upper Midwest and Northeast in droves, coming down south, forcing our "Northern natures" on you good Southerners and spoiling it for everyone.

Well, that's just not true. It's the natural migration of things. When crazy politics, escalating taxes and ridiculous cost of living as well as a sinking job market in CA (sound familiar, people of the upper midwest and New England?) drove people out, they headed to where they felt was a reasonable distance, some sort of cultural similarity and a more sane lifestyle. Kansas and Oklahoma weren't it. Washington and Oregon fit the bill. I know you guys all know my husband is an Oregon native. I'm not but have lived in the PNW 12+ years. I also lived in the Bay area almost 8 years. The second "tour" to SF was when we left Portland (over my protests!). We were there a year and a half and I got us transferred back to sanity-ville. It took about a month to change over our CA plates. During that time, I can't tell you how many times I got the finger from the "polite" Seattlites (many of whom were from someplace else--just like in the Triangle), got run off the road and once, even blocked in to a parking space at the bank and threatened---physically---to go home to CA. They assumed I was a native. And even if I were a native, is it so bad to want something else? Last I looked, you didn't need a passport or a visa to visit or move to another state within the U.S. This attitude upsets me.

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Again...I've lived here for 30 years. It always amazes me that those from other states always begin complaining after being here about 3 years. The complaint? They want the "others" to stop coming!!!

Do you see the irony???
Unfortunately, I do. And it's not pretty. ::
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:50 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh
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Well, all I can add to this is... I've been here 40 years this coming September.

Yep, there used to be a real quality of life. Things moved slow. Drivers were polite. It wasn't too hard to get around. And the place was, above all, clean and green.

Not all development over the last 30 years or so has been bad, and on the whole, there have been improvements, and we have many more options available.

But with this latest influx from other parts of the US, and yes, Mexico... the very best aspects of the Triangle are, IMO, behind us.

Nothing but crowded and lawless highways (routine speed: 95 miles per hour, with not a cop in sight); gridlock on every other corner, and garbage strewn as far as the eye can see. And people aren't near as friendly and polite as they used to be.

I miss real Southerners.
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Old 03-19-2008, 11:34 AM
 
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And California used to truly be the Golden State. Been to LA recently? It's a garbage dump. I lived in San Francisco between 1978 and 1982. I came from Boston. I was amazed at how clean it was compared to Boston. Then again, I was amazed how clean Boston was compared to Philadelphia, where I grew up.

I moved to the PNW and returned to San Francisco 10 years later, in 1988. In those 10 years, the City had gone waaaay downhill. Graffitti on the busses, trolleys and trains (unheard of when I'd first moved there). Homeless people strewn all over the city literally grabbing at you as you walked to work. Sky high prices, rude people, trash everywhere. Sound familiar?

I hate to say this, but the ugly dark side of the economic boom is that the area does lose much of what made it attractive in the first place, Unfortunately, for you long time Raleighites, we mean, dirty, rude people from the Northeast find it way more attractive than the land of the frozen tundra.

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Old 03-19-2008, 01:06 PM
 
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So when NC becomes "used up" like all of the other aforementioned places...where is everyone going to next? My money is on Kentucky...maybe even just South Carolina. Who knows, in another 30 years or something; things could go full circle and the Northeast and Midwest could be the "in places" to be again? Does this mean when I'm in my 70's my modest yet very liveable house in the suburbs of Rochester NY will start to appreciate rapidly in value for about 5 years and then plumet? Perhaps by that time we will begin colonizing mars or venus and people will be flocking from the "dreary old expensive rude earth" to "friendly new and prosporous" mars?
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Old 03-19-2008, 02:37 PM
 
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So when NC becomes "used up" like all of the other aforementioned places...where is everyone going to next? My money is on Kentucky...maybe even just South Carolina. Who knows, in another 30 years or something; things could go full circle and the Northeast and Midwest could be the "in places" to be again? Does this mean when I'm in my 70's my modest yet very liveable house in the suburbs of Rochester NY will start to appreciate rapidly in value for about 5 years and then plumet? Perhaps by that time we will begin colonizing mars or venus and people will be flocking from the "dreary old expensive rude earth" to "friendly new and prosporous" mars?
That's why areas like NC should discourage migration by building no roads and not touting the state as a great place to live.

WCPSS especially needs to no longer promote its quality to prospective transplants.

This can be stopped if the right moves are made before the deterioration reaches the turning point.
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Old 03-19-2008, 02:38 PM
 
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Silly NRG...you can't just "close the door", we have to put up a FENCE!!!

Vicki
But, Vicki, the HOA would never allow this!

Hang in there, friend, there's hope.
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:23 PM
 
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What happened to LA and Portland doesn't have to happen to Raleigh. I believe it's all about the attitudes transplants bring with them. If they start acting arrogant, rude and smug, it can obviously have a negative impact. (Portland natives are like that too, though -- it's just gotten A LOT worse in the past few years).

I'm leaving Portland for Raleigh, in part to escape that attitude and seek out a friendlier and more relaxed way of life. I hope my fellow transplants, no matter where they're from, don't ruin it for the rest of us. Bad behavior from transplants gives us all a bad name. Some of us just want better lives for ourselves and have no intention of turning it into a replica of where we came from.
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Old 03-19-2008, 05:52 PM
 
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After New Orleans, it was Heaven when we came here in 1989.
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