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Thought about you lot / this thread during my holiday travels when this happened yesterday. Was traveling for the holidays to see friends and family, stopped by a place I used to go to in downstate NY:
Me : Do you bake these here? (was getting local bagels and pastries)
Store guy: Yeah, they’re really good, aren’t they?
Me : I love these things, I get them every time I come here
Store guy: Where are you coming from?
Me : NC
Store guy: You from there?
Me : No. I’m from all over, including around here a few years. I live there now
Store guy: Where in NC?
Me : Raleigh
Store guy: Where?
Me : Where in Raleigh? Why, you know Raleigh?
Store guy: Yeah, I lived there a couple years
Me : North Raleigh (and this went on for a bit)
Store guy: What do you think of it there?
Me : It’s nice, still getting used to it, like most places, got its pluses and minuses. You?
Store guy: Nah
Me : Oh? Why?
Store guy: The people
Me : ?
Store guy: Polite to your face, then they back stab you. Happened a few times. We don’t do that around here
And then another customer ordered and the conversation ended. But it was interesting to hear the other side of what this OP is about.
Thought about you lot / this thread during my holiday travels when this happened yesterday. Was traveling for the holidays to see friends and family, stopped by a place I used to go to in downstate NY:
Me : Do you bake these here? (was getting local bagels and pastries)
Store guy: Yeah, they’re really good, aren’t they?
Me : I love these things, I get them every time I come here
Store guy: Where are you coming from?
Me : NC
Store guy: You from there?
Me : No. I’m from all over, including around here a few years. I live there now
Store guy: Where in NC?
Me : Raleigh
Store guy: Where?
Me : Where in Raleigh? Why, you know Raleigh?
Store guy: Yeah, I lived there a couple years
Me : North Raleigh (and this went on for a bit)
Store guy: What do you think of it there?
Me : It’s nice, still getting used to it, like most places, got its pluses and minuses. You?
Store guy: Nah
Me : Oh? Why?
Store guy: The people
Me : ?
Store guy: Polite to your face, then they back stab you. Happened a few times. We don’t do that around here
And then another customer ordered and the conversation ended. But it was interesting to hear the other side of what this OP is about.
I hear what the store guy is saying. Even a polite New Yorker will lose it once surrounded by crass, aggressive people on all sides. Polite southerners who get mad at you for something will grit their teeth, smile and blurt out a “Bless your heart” . Meanwhile they are seething. Truth is the backstabbers are everywhere; in NY the sheer number of people make them more prevalent and less disguised. I guess store guy prefers it that way.
I hear what the store guy is saying. Even a polite New Yorker will lose it once surrounded by crass, aggressive people on all sides. Polite southerners who get mad at you for something will grit their teeth, smile and blurt out a “Bless your heart” . Meanwhile they are seething. Truth is the backstabbers are everywhere; in NY the sheer number of people make them more prevalent and less disguised. I guess store guy prefers it that way.
"What they doin"
"They smilin in your face...all the time want to take your place"
I've heard the two face complaint I think more often than not people can't accept public courtesies and assume a motive.
It's kind of like Europeans on Americans smiling
On another note I was at the mall and holding the door open for two women coming out behind my wife and instead of the standard "thank you" I just got a weird stare as they walked through the door i was holding lol
You will get along fine in most southern towns if you avoid such insults and lay off the jokes about how we shut down for an inch of snow. Yes, we do. But we would be foolish to invest huge sums in snow equipment that we may not even use some years that we don't have any snow.
I think it's probably a lot more cost effective to do it the way we do it. 9 times out of 10 the snow is gone in 2 days. We had a few snowflakes a couple of weeks ago here in western Orange County (out near White Cross), roads were slick for a minute, but it was gone w/in a few hours.
It would be interesting to see an analysis of the cost of road clearing equipment, etc, vs just shutting schools and offices down for a day or two. Wonder where the break-even point for a ROI is? To be clear we do have some plows and brine, etc. And I'm pretty sure we also get more sleet and freezing rain than they do up north where they get more snow. Ice is no good for driving and I think it's harder to clear than snow.
I've heard the two face complaint I think more often than not people can't accept public courtesies and assume a motive.
It's kind of like Europeans on Americans smiling
On another note I was at the mall and holding the door open for two women coming out behind my wife and instead of the standard "thank you" I just got a weird stare as they walked through the door i was holding lol
I Love and extend public courtesies.
That’s why I am an EX-NY’ER.
What surprises me living here is when I hold a door or let someone go in front of me and get no acknowledgement. Common in NY; a rarity here.
I've stayed out of this for the most part but as a transplant I just want to note that WE ARE AWARE that "bless your heart" is usually an insult and is very dismissive, grr.
(was just used on me in another thread)
So all of this goes both ways.
I feel like "don't be a jerk" is a pretty good motto.
I think it's probably a lot more cost effective to do it the way we do it. 9 times out of 10 the snow is gone in 2 days. We had a few snowflakes a couple of weeks ago here in western Orange County (out near White Cross), roads were slick for a minute, but it was gone w/in a few hours.
It would be interesting to see an analysis of the cost of road clearing equipment, etc, vs just shutting schools and offices down for a day or two. Wonder where the break-even point for a ROI is? To be clear we do have some plows and brine, etc. And I'm pretty sure we also get more sleet and freezing rain than they do up north where they get more snow. Ice is no good for driving and I think it's harder to clear than snow.
On top of that, the newer salt they used up north does a number on the vehicles, and when they grind the I've off the roads it does a number on them.
The roads here aren't usually cold enough for the freezing rain to do much.
I've stayed out of this for the most part but as a transplant I just want to note that WE ARE AWARE that "bless your heart" is usually an insult and is very dismissive, grr.
(was just used on me in another thread)
So all of this goes both ways.
I feel like "don't be a jerk" is a pretty good motto.
I grew up in NJ and GA. Lived in Atlanta in HS and went to North Georgia often for recreation and camping. I stopped in one of those ubiquitous small town stores to buy some food and us guys were talking in a rather boisterous manner. I was waiting by the clerk, an old guy, and started talking to him. He asks in his North GA accent (almost Appalachian-he was wearing a Clemson hat) -"Where'er y'all from ?" I said Atlanta and he responded with "I doun't like Alanta". I asked him why not he replies -"...too many damn Yankees!". I still think about that comment and laugh but it exemplifies much of the traditional southern attitude.
I've stayed out of this for the most part but as a transplant I just want to note that WE ARE AWARE that "bless your heart" is usually an insult and is very dismissive, grr.
(was just used on me in another thread)
So all of this goes both ways.
I feel like "don't be a jerk" is a pretty good motto.
Oh, people know you know that.
LOL.
That said, it is sincere sometimes. It’s situational.
If you break your leg ice skating and someone comforts you with “oh! bless your heart!”
They mean you well. Unless y’all are definitely enemies.
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