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Old 07-25-2018, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Do sellers keep permits? I had to turn mine in to the town. I would assume that would be the buyers responsibility to look up, if they are so concerned with it.
You should retain a copy.
The town is not a reliable source, and they often purge after several years.
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Old 07-25-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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It used to be about BTUs but as energy costs have soared it's all about efficiency. Apparently it's more efficient to slowly run your A/C set to a higher temp but lower airflow which reduces humidity.

If you're interested in something different look up direct expansion heat pumps. I just worked with a guy who had it in central OH. His average electric bill is under $40/month summer and winter on a 4000 sq ft home. His system was 22 years old but just developed a leak (22 lbs of R22) in th evaporator. He replaced the evap and charged it up again. He uses no supplemental gas or electric heat.

Instead of the outside condenser it runs copper tubing through the ground where it's around 55*. It uses that to condense instead of the outside air. So just think about it, in the summer instead of condensing using 95* air it uses 55*, winter time instead of trying to draw heat out of 15* temps it's 55*.
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Old 07-25-2018, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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There are plenty of tradesmen who will install without pulling a permit.
Yeah, never thought of it in regards to an AC unit. And honestly I didn't know it was one of those that required a permit, I just thought an HVAC license. IE, to break a seal and replace a toilet you need to have a plumbing license, but not a permit AFAIK (assuming it isn't your own home.)
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Old 07-25-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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You can do any repair on HVAC but system replacement must have a permit. Kinda crazy. So you can replace the compressor with no permit but to replace the condenser requires one, makes zero sense.

You do legally need an EPA 608 but that is a joke to get.
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Old 07-25-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Yeah, never thought of it in regards to an AC unit. And honestly I didn't know it was one of those that required a permit, I just thought an HVAC license. IE, to break a seal and replace a toilet you need to have a plumbing license, but not a permit AFAIK (assuming it isn't your own home.)
The thing about an AC installation is that it can touch on a few trades.
Electrical.
HVAC.
Plumbing.
Structural.

Jacklegs at multiple trades with access to power tools can be dangerous.
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Old 07-25-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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Temperature differential is the 'rule of thumb' starting point.
This "is the house/room cool & comfortable or isn't it" question isn't rocket science.

Per the OP... the house would have failed that test and the prudent buyer warned off.


Which is why buyers are advised to have help: Agents AND attorneys (and inspectors, trade pros, etc)
If you are talking about temperature differential (Delta T) at the unit, you are incorrect. You can have a perfectly fine differential, generally 15-20 degrees, yet the house still does not cool down properly. I have seen this many, many times. The differential at the unit has no relationship to sizing. Now, if you are talking a temperature variance, room to room, that is typically associated with/related to the system balance.....not necessarily the size. Balance is related to air flow.

Comfort is somewhat subjective which is why there are very specific rules about system performance (ASHRAE).
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:40 PM
 
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The Town of Holly Springs inspects AC swap out and I was given singed permits for my records and told by the town to hang on to them. I think it's complicated enough to warranty an inspection.
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