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I went to School in Rochester NY. The year before I graduated we had 10" of snow a week before graduation.
Western New York Weather History MAY 8
1989
7th-8th…A late season snowstorm dropped up to twelve inches of snow across the western southern tier, Niagara Frontier and the Finger Lakes area. At Buffalo just under eight inches was recorded while at Rochester just over 10 inches fell.
I went to School in Rochester NY. The year before I graduated we had 10" of snow a week before graduation.
Western New York Weather History MAY 8
1989
7th-8th…A late season snowstorm dropped up to twelve inches of snow across the western southern tier, Niagara Frontier and the Finger Lakes area. At Buffalo just under eight inches was recorded while at Rochester just over 10 inches fell.
That's funny....we graduated the same year and that May was unbearably hot in Albany. Over 90* every day and our AC was broken!
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Yeah, upstate NY and western NY are much different than NYC in terms of weather. That's why I asked architect where he lived because NYC certainly didn't get 3 snowstorms in May.
Regardless of the specifics, I think the OP will find that winter starts later in NC and ends earlier and is milder. Summers last longer and are warmer. In general, the weather pattern is pretty similar with temperatures in NYC being 10-15 degrees colder in winter months, on average, than in Raleigh.
I look at our winters this way: I switch to summer-only compound tires at the end of Feb. These are tire that typically specify 40 degrees + for 'optimal' effectiveness. By the end of Feb our mornings are trending above 40 for the most part, but exceptions do exist.
Yeah, upstate NY and western NY are much different than NYC in terms of weather. That's why I asked architect where he lived because NYC certainly didn't get 3 snowstorms in May.
Regardless of the specifics, I think the OP will find that winter starts later in NC and ends earlier and is milder. Summers last longer and are warmer. In general, the weather pattern is pretty similar with temperatures in NYC being 10-15 degrees colder in winter months, on average, than in Raleigh.
Dude, in 2005 there was a huge snowstorm the 1st week of May with 6-9".
And it has snowed in April around my birthday on the 20th more than once.
I know for a fact that it has snowed more than once with substantial accumulations in the first days of May....
in the last 18 years....In Manhattan, NYC.
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When someone goes to the trouble of citing as many specifics as I did...
give them the benefit of the doubt of telling the truth.
NYC has seen many snow events at the end of April, beginning of May that weren't mere dustings.
All of my details support my original statement to the common sense of most people....
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The heat in buildings citywide is turned on Nov 1.
Memorial Day Weekend out on Long Island drops into the 40s overnight almost every year.
To a North Carolinean, these two statements more or less mean Winter, cold, & not what is associated with warm summer.
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So my bad for not acknowledging the shoulder season & reducing the year to just two conditions, hot or cold.
Dude, in 2005 there was a huge snowstorm the 1st week of May with 6-9".
And it has snowed in April around my birthday on the 20th more than once.
I know for a fact that it has snowed more than once with substantial accumulations in the first days of May....
in the last 18 years....In Manhattan, NYC.
________________
When someone goes to the trouble of citing as many specifics as I did...
give them the benefit of the doubt of telling the truth.
NYC has seen many snow events at the end of April, beginning of May that weren't mere dustings.
All of my details support my original statement to the common sense of most people....
_______
The heat in buildings citywide is turned on Nov 1.
Memorial Day Weekend out on Long Island drops into the 40s overnight almost every year.
To a North Carolinean, these two statements more or less mean Winter, cold, & not what is associated with warm summer.
_______
So my bad for not acknowledging the shoulder season & reducing the year to just two conditions, hot or cold.
I'm interested in these stats having grown up on LI, whose weather is generally very similar to NYC. I do not recall it snowing substantially in May ever. Certainly don't remember a May 2005 snowstorm and we were living 15 miles outside midtown Manhattan at the time. I can't find any record of it online either. In fact just checked the weather underground site for the first week of May 2005 in Central Park and nothing is mentioned as far as snow or even temperature anomalies.
I would love to see a link to a news story about this storm. I had 3 kids under the age of five at the time so it may have slipped my notice.
There are areas around NYC that will be wintery pretty late, particularly in northwest NJ. But to paint the whole area, particularly the coastal areas, with the same brush is incorrect.
I worked on the south shore of Long Island at one point and lived on the north shore. It would not be unusual for it to be raining at work and snowing at my house. I also left work one day to find the north facing side of my car iced over...it was the driver side so I scraped it all off. Went around to do the passenger south facing side and it was just wet.
And once when I working and living in a mid-Island, Nassau County location, I got up in the morning to a pretty dusting of snow on the grassy surfaces. Got in my car and made my 10 minutes commute on wet roads. Got to work and no one was there. Most of the people I worked with came from Suffolk County, farther east on the Island. When they finally started trickling in, I found out they'd gotten a foot of snow!
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Originally Posted by architect77
Dude, in 2005 there was a huge snowstorm the 1st week of May with 6-9".
And it has snowed in April around my birthday on the 20th more than once.
I know for a fact that it has snowed more than once with substantial accumulations in the first days of May....
in the last 18 years....In Manhattan, NYC.
________________
When someone goes to the trouble of citing as many specifics as I did...
give them the benefit of the doubt of telling the truth.
NYC has seen many snow events at the end of April, beginning of May that weren't mere dustings.
All of my details support my original statement to the common sense of most people....
_______
The heat in buildings citywide is turned on Nov 1.
Memorial Day Weekend out on Long Island drops into the 40s overnight almost every year.
To a North Carolinean, these two statements more or less mean Winter, cold, & not what is associated with warm summer.
_______
So my bad for not acknowledging the shoulder season & reducing the year to just two conditions, hot or cold.
Dude, it did NOT snow in May in NYC no matter what your memory is telling you. Snow in April isn't all that common in NYC. And even snow in May in upstate New York is newsworthy. I don't care about your "details" - show me the news stories or weather data from a weather site that shows it snowed 6+ inches of snow in NYC in May 2005, and I'll believe you. Because this is what I see:
A 2018 article about even the relative rarity of snow in April in NYC, and this quote from the article: "Also just a PSA: It has snowed in May four times. Trace amounts were recorded in Central Park in 1946, 1956, 1977 and 1995, documents show"
A 2013 article about the rarity of snow in May in the whole USA including mention of a record-setting snow of 8 inches in Buffalo which shattered an 80-year old record (no mention of NYC):
And I just checked Wunderground and the Farmer's Almanac for the week of May 1-May 7, 2005 which shows the temperature of 41 degrees minimum and 64 degrees maximum in NYC for that week with less than 1/2 inch of precipitation (rain) for the whole week.
So, no, I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt. I was born and raised up north and know that it does not snow in May in NYC.
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