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Old 11-15-2018, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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So this was class of 2018? If student took test multiple times, do they take highest scores or average them?
Yes, class of 2018. It counts the last test they took.
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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Raleigh charter is just a lottery - not selective.
Wow, that's crazy that their test scores are so high then. I know, in general, charter schools are attractive to people who value education, have knowledge of the school/lottery, and have the means to drive their kid to school everyday, so that does usually skew scores higher, but I wouldn't think it would account for that high of a score. It might be a case of a cycle of them having high scores which in turn attracts high caliber students which in turn leads to high test scores and so on.

I just looked at the website, and did notice that many classes are only offered at the honors level or the AP level, which may weed out some applicants/students. But still this school is doing something special or at least preparing them very well for the SAT. Very interesting. Does anyone have more knowledge about this school?

ETA: Raleigh Charter has the 3rd highest SAT scores in the state (with an 89% participation rate), after Early College at Guilford (1442) NCSSM (1439), both of which are competitive admittance schools. So, it really is impressive.

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Old 11-16-2018, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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The outstanding performers are the schools with both high participation rates & high scores.
Raleigh Charter is particularly impressive. Green Hope, Panther Creek, Chapel Hill, E. Chapel Hill, and Apex are also pretty impressive.
I’m sorry, but what’s impressive about it? These schools have a preponderance of intelligent, achievement oriented kids, from educated, achievement oriented parents. To those of whom much is given, much is expected.
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:25 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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I’m sorry, but what’s impressive about it? These schools have a preponderance of intelligent, achievement oriented kids, from educated, achievement oriented parents. To those of whom much is given, much is expected.
And people who can afford to pay for SAT prep, ACT prep and a "college counselor". My daughter has a friend whose older brother has been studying for the SAT since freshman year, I'm sure he's not unusual and I'm sure the friend will be spending this summer studying for it as well.
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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Wow, that's crazy that their test scores are so high then. I know, in general, charter schools are attractive to people who value education, have knowledge of the school/lottery, and have the means to drive their kid to school everyday, so that does usually skew scores higher, but I wouldn't think it would account for that high of a score.
I think they position the school as a high achieving, very challenging school, so while all charter admissions by law are only by lottery (with preference given to siblings) those who apply to the charter school are self-selecting. Basically you wouldn't apply to Raleigh Charter if you didn't want a very challenging academic environment, so all the kids who apply are probably pretty smart just on the basis of self-selection. Woods also usually has pretty high scores for the same reason.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Baltimore MD/Durham NC
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I’m sorry, but what’s impressive about it? These schools have a preponderance of intelligent, achievement oriented kids, from educated, achievement oriented parents. To those of whom much is given, much is expected.
Yes, I think SAT scores in general speaks more to the family background of the children than anything the school achieved.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Research Triangle Area, NC
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I’m sorry, but what’s impressive about it? These schools have a preponderance of intelligent, achievement oriented kids, from educated, achievement oriented parents. To those of whom much is given, much is expected.
I do agree that the aforementioned schools are populated by students who mostly come from highly educated, high-income households. I think the most accurate metric for if a school is "helping" it's students the most is the achievement gap. The grades/test scores of students from high-income households vs those from low-income households.

Sadly I don't think there are many public non-charter schools in the area (or for that matter, in NC or nationally) that would have overly impressive achievement-gap stats.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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Have they released the ACT scores? Would be interesting to compare them since SAT-takers are self-selected and all high school juniors are required to take the ACT.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:42 AM
 
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I think they position the school as a high achieving, very challenging school, so while all charter admissions by law are only by lottery (with preference given to siblings) those who apply to the charter school are self-selecting. Basically you wouldn't apply to Raleigh Charter if you didn't want a very challenging academic environment, so all the kids who apply are probably pretty smart just on the basis of self-selection. Woods also usually has pretty high scores for the same reason.
I think it's the 9AM start time for Raleigh Charter :-)
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:48 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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I think they position the school as a high achieving, very challenging school, so while all charter admissions by law are only by lottery (with preference given to siblings) those who apply to the charter school are self-selecting. Basically you wouldn't apply to Raleigh Charter if you didn't want a very challenging academic environment, so all the kids who apply are probably pretty smart just on the basis of self-selection. Woods also usually has pretty high scores for the same reason.
Yes, I know someone who moved here from Florida because his son got in there. They rented a place here, applied, and then made the move once he was accepted.
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