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Old 07-23-2020, 10:33 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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yeah I mean social isolation can be as dangerous as the virus for some people. The kicker is this mom is letting people from outside the area visit her, and I think that's the final straw for the other kids in the group.
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Old 07-23-2020, 11:02 AM
 
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Ahh, that's too bad. Nice of your kids and the other friends to be in solidarity with the isolated only child, but I agree that enough is enough. I have been letting my teens social distance with one friend at a time (usually the same one friend who is also an only and whose mom is also anxious, but not that anxious). They have seen a couple of other friends, but only once or twice and my teens are both pretty anxious themselves so are pretty careful about social distance and masks and hand sanitizer.

Maybe you can suggest to your kid that they could social distance over at the isolated friend's house? Maybe just do a drive-by and everyone stay in their cars if mom is really that anxious? Or y'know they could invite the friend to get together and if mom says no, then mom says no and she is the one who is socially isolating the kid, not her friends.
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Old 07-23-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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Maybe you can suggest to your kid that they could social distance over at the isolated friend's house? Maybe just do a drive-by and everyone stay in their cars if mom is really that anxious? Or y'know they could invite the friend to get together and if mom says no, then mom says no and she is the one who is socially isolating the kid, not her friends.

Yeah I have pointed this out and that's what they are going to do - they are planning on getting together at one girl's house and all will be invited and they're just gonna leave it at that. I'm not sure she will say "but guys you can't together because I can't come" so hopefully there are no issues. And I told my DD that this will hopefully spark a convo between mother and daughter about this whole situation. BTW mom promised girl she could go out once July rolled around. July is almost over
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Old 07-24-2020, 09:05 AM
 
Location: NC
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I got this press release in my email this morning about a Duke/CHCCS partnership to come up with data-driven decisions regarding schools. Sounds like it could be a good thing for WCPPS too and thought some of the date nerds around here might find it interesting. Says "The advisory board’s launch in CHCCS is a pilot project funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and the team, which is also initiating discussions with Durham Public Schools and Orange County Schools, expects that the model will be expandable to school districts across the nation."

https://dcri.org/covid-scientific-advisory-board/

I've seen one of the leads on the partnership's "COVID Scientific Advisory Board," Daniel Benjamin of Duke, come out in strong support of reopening schools, safely of course, given the data currently available.

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Old 07-24-2020, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Where the College Used to Be
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I follow Charlie Baker (R - Governor of MA) on twitter. He posted a link yesterday to their reopening plans. Granted, MA was in the "early sector" of this virus, while we here have been closer to the "later sector" of the first wave (although I think we would all agree that NC never reached the crushing levels seen in the early states (NY, MA, NJ, CT, WA, CA) or the "later sector" states like TX, AZ, FL, CA).

From what I could tell by the plan he presented on twitter, seems like MA DOE is going full in person with mitigation strategies, which surprised me given A, the general position of the state on most things, and B, because my dad and sister (who still live up here) say life isn't close to back to normal.

Was interesting to juxtapose it to what we are seeing here.

https://t.co/6IanS1EixZ?amp=1
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Old 07-24-2020, 09:47 AM
 
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CDC's new school guidance - don't think this was posted yet? If so I apologize.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...g-schools.html

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Old 07-24-2020, 09:50 AM
 
Location: NC
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I follow Charlie Baker (R - Governor of MA) on twitter. He posted a link yesterday to their reopening plans. Granted, MA was in the "early sector" of this virus, while we here have been closer to the "later sector" of the first wave (although I think we would all agree that NC never reached the crushing levels seen in the early states (NY, MA, NJ, CT, WA, CA) or the "later sector" states like TX, AZ, FL, CA).

From what I could tell by the plan he presented on twitter, seems like MA DOE is going full in person with mitigation strategies, which surprised me given A, the general position of the state on most things, and B, because my dad and sister (who still live up here) say life isn't close to back to normal.

Was interesting to juxtapose it to what we are seeing here.

https://t.co/6IanS1EixZ?amp=1
I have family up there as well, but from what I read yesterday, it seemed like based on the guidelines, districts were leaning towards hybrid models to make it work (reduced bus capacity, distancing, etc). Wouldn't be surprised if they do like all the districts here and scrap the hybrid plan for full remote when they realize how difficult if not impossible the hybrid plan will be. They may have more resources though to be able to make it work. They don't pay those high taxes for nothing!

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/07...d-coronavirus/
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Old 07-24-2020, 09:55 AM
 
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CDC's new school guidance - don't think this was posted yet? If so I apologize.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ng-schools.htm
Link says Oops!
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Old 07-24-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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Link says Oops!
Oops! Thanks fixed it.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...g-schools.html
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Where the College Used to Be
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Thanks for the link m378. Overall informative to the say the least.

I guess my only question/issue is as follows. The opening paragraph (COVID-19 and Children) seems to paint the picture for the reader that I would argue is incomplete at best, no?

There are very few countries that left schools open and as such there isn't a ton of real life data to how (or not) effective kids are at transmitting this in a school type setting. Yes, with schools closed, and seeing how it is spreading now, we could collectively say "The data shows that kids aren't the spreaders like we are seeing in care facilities and bars and pool parties etc etc etc" but in saying that, we are applying a negative relationship (they aren't spreaders) to a situation where we actually don't know one way or the other what the situation really is. To apply a drug concept, we have not yet run a clinical trial (kids in school) yet we are concluding that the outcome is effective (kids aren't spreaders). Yes, some European countries are back to normal, but they are in a completely different reality than even some states, let alone the country as a whole are in (i.e. FL had 15 times as many deaths yesterday alone as Germany did, a country 4 times the size population wise as FL)

I take no issue with their other points, in person school is clearly better for kids in most cases for a multitude of reasons. I just don't know that we have enough real life "available evidence" to even lean toward the "they aren't spreaders"


Having said all this, I hope CDC has this right. I want January back.
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