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Old 08-11-2020, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Wait, wuh? How are they doing that legally? I thought amusement parks and playgrounds are both still supposed to remain closed. Is Galaxy considered something else?

Yep. Complete garbage. I'm glad people are starting to realize what I've been saying all along.


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It's sad for the businesses and can't or did not find a loop hole to operate. It's like they are being punished for following the mandate.

They are! And a latest study shows a zero percent increase after gyms were allowed to reopen.



The mandates are simply for appeasement and to make people falsely think they're safe. This nonsense will stop in November.
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Old 08-11-2020, 06:08 AM
 
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Yep. Complete garbage. I'm glad people are starting to realize what I've been saying all along.





They are! And a latest study shows a zero percent increase after gyms were allowed to reopen.



The mandates are simply for appeasement and to make people falsely think they're safe. This nonsense will stop in November.
I disagree that mandates are only for appeasement. Companies and people find loop holes in laws all the time it does not mean the laws are not worthwhile. I have witten a few pages back that i really hope is does change in November becuase the US is the only country that has blown their response this badly and that responsibility goes right to the top, not that responsibility will ever be taken, just blame assigned. This was/is a Federal blunder on all fronts.
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Old 08-11-2020, 07:16 AM
 
Location: NC
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I disagree that mandates are only for appeasement. Companies and people find loop holes in laws all the time it does not mean the laws are not worthwhile. I have witten a few pages back that i really hope is does change in November becuase the US is the only country that has blown their response this badly and that responsibility goes right to the top, not that responsibility will ever be taken, just blame assigned. This was/is a Federal blunder on all fronts.
I don't disagree that the federal response to this pandemic has been abysmal to say the least, but that doesn't mean state and local leaders haven't bumbled things as well. Continuing to point fingers at the POTUS for all our problems is like him constantly pointing fingers at China and the WHO for our problems. People need to take responsibility for what they can. Some governors even demanded they be able to do just that and told the feds to stay out of their business. Some are doing a better job than others with that.

If the state doesn't want companies exploiting loopholes, they could close them or better yet avoid creating them in the first place. And if the governor really wanted schools opened like he claimed and really truly believed it was our top priority like said, he could do more to at least give us the possibility of that happening. But he seems to be playing both sides and playing it safe rather than taking bold action which is what's needed right now in my opinion.
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Old 08-11-2020, 08:47 AM
 
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And if the governor really wanted schools opened like he claimed and really truly believed it was our top priority like said, he could do more to at least give us the possibility of that happening. But he seems to be playing both sides and playing it safe rather than taking bold action which is what's needed right now in my opinion.

What! Playing it safe and not wanting to take bold action!!!!That's it! I don't know about y'all but I'm switching my vote to Forrest. Playing it safe and not taking bold action. WHO does he think he is!
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:38 AM
 
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And if the governor really wanted schools opened like he claimed and really truly believed it was our top priority like said, he could do more to at least give us the possibility of that happening. But he seems to be playing both sides and playing it safe rather than taking bold action which is what's needed right now in my opinion.

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What! Playing it safe and not wanting to take bold action!!!!That's it! I don't know about y'all but I'm switching my vote to Forrest. Playing it safe and not taking bold action. WHO does he think he is!
Way to go missing the point and making this about something it's not. It should be obvious I meant playing it safe politically not with public health.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:21 AM
 
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Way to go missing the point and making this about something it's not. It should be obvious I meant playing it safe politically not with public health.
Look, a "can do" attitude can be a wonderful thing. But what possible "bold" action do you propose should be taken? If he is such a political person, wouldn't he come up with some "bold action" to advance his political agenda if he could safely do so? In my view, there isn't a great deal that can be done during this pandemic but follow the guidelines the scientists have outlined. Am I missing something here? How is he playing it safe and pleasing both sides?
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Look, a "can do" attitude can be a wonderful thing. But what possible "bold" action do you propose should be taken? If he is such a political person, wouldn't he come up with some "bold action" to advance his political agenda if he could safely do so? In my view, there isn't a great deal that can be done during this pandemic but follow the guidelines the scientists have outlined. Am I missing something here? How is he playing it safe and pleasing both sides?
A bold move would be to shut it all down for a month, with enforcement, and I think we'd be in a much better place at the end of it. Instead, we've been treading water for five months.
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Old 08-11-2020, 11:36 AM
 
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A bold move would be to shut it all down for a month, with enforcement, and I think we'd be in a much better place at the end of it. Instead, we've been treading water for five months.
I hear what you're saying and it would probably be very effective. But give up partying in a pandemic is a tough call for many Americans. The enforcement part would give me pause with some of the good folks from the "don't tread on me and take away my rights" camp.
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Old 08-11-2020, 11:40 AM
 
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All the armchair quarterbacks - we are in a pandemic that comes around every 100 years and so many complain about actions being taken. Governors are being attacked for every little decision. I really would never want a loved one in such a position. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:33 PM
 
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A bold move would be to shut it all down for a month, with enforcement, and I think we'd be in a much better place at the end of it. Instead, we've been treading water for five months.
But then when you open it all up you have spikes like they did in AZ, FL and TX and more deaths.
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