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It's not fair using fact and logic against pure emotion.
Can't believe I missed this unnecessary swipe. Read the book "Talking to Strangers", or study the policing techniques commonly used when executing a DWB traffic stop, which were also covered in the book.
Is it possible in this one instance it was entirely coincidence that he approached the vehicle from the passenger side? Sure. But when you examine all of the information made available, it's much more likely it's part of the aforementioned technique.
And maybe hit the dictionary when taking swipes at people, opining that the officer used that approach for any reason is actually not factual, nor logical. Police officers are trained to angle their vehicle so as to provide a layer of protection for themselves when making a traffic stop.
Can't believe I missed this unnecessary swipe. Read the book "Talking to Strangers", or study the policing techniques commonly used when executing a DWB traffic stop, which were also covered in the book.
Is it possible in this one instance it was entirely coincidence that he approached the vehicle from the passenger side? Sure. But when you examine all of the information made available, it's much more likely it's part of the aforementioned technique.
And maybe hit the dictionary when taking swipes at people, opining that the officer used that approach for any reason is actually not factual, nor logical.
Police officers are trained to angle their vehicle so as to provide a layer of protection for themselves when making a traffic stop.
Avoiding traffic is both factual and logical.
"Angling" their vehicles isn't if it would block a lane of traffic.
Officers are also trained to make "small talk" so they can see if a person acts/reacts normally.
So that's it? You just throw up some tired rhetoric and think there's a degree of provincialism influencing my perspective?
Put in the effort to research policing tactics, start by reading "Talking to Strangers". Or don't. Continue Googling somebody else's opinions and than offer that up as a means of fueling a debate. You're not being provocative or interesting, you're just cliched.
Modern lane and road widths are so freaking wide. If it feels safe to do cruise down I-40 or I-85 at 90 mph, people are going to drive 90 mph. If it feels safe to fly down Cary Pkwy at 65 mph, people are going to drive 65 mph. If it only feels safe to go 40 mph down Wake Forest Rd, people are only going to drive 40 mph. You get the idea. It is my observation that people generally drive faster on new roads with wide lanes than they do on older roads with narrow lanes.
Modern cars are more capable than ever. Back when a lot of speed limits were introduced, almost every car was dangerous to drive above speeds of about 60 mph. Some of this is due to the cars themselves, and some is due to brake and tire technologies that have increased drastically just in the past two decades or so. Even basic commuter cars such as Civics and Corollas can now handle 100 mph pretty comfortably, and just as with the first point, people will generally drive at speeds they feel comfortable at.
Another reason: lots of transplants from places where 20 mph over the limit is the general speed of traffic on sidewalks.
Edit - I will add that the cop gave me weird vibes. What exactly does the guy's job have to do with anything, or where he was going??? I would be freaked out too.
The safety aspect of normal width 12’ lanes far outweighs the Danger from the possibility that they encourage faster speeds.
I-85 in Atlanta used to be pleasant before they squeezed another lane (HOV) into existence by reducing the width of the 5 existing lanes.
Two of the inner right lanes are only 11’ feet wide and now it is not a enjoyable ride for any of the lanes because you feel like you can reach out and touch the 18 wheelers beside you, sometimes at 75mph.
Today on I-95 Northbound near the FL/GA line I shot a video of my speedometer at 90mph while cars passed me on both sides. Two Florida state troopers passed me as I stuck it on 80mph because it would be dangerous to go any slower.
It’s the Pandemic’s temporary reduced traffic volumes that people are exploiting as this is all long-haul motorists
who probably are driving for more than one day so speeding is expected.
But that hasn't really happened has it? This is a discussion (police abusing their power and being caught on camera doing so) that has been occurring for awhile now, PDs get sued, pay out using tax payer funds and the issues persist.
I mean Chauvin had what, 17 complaints on his professional record? How does any cop, given their place in society, get more than one? I would be fired for a single HR complaint and I have 0 ability to impact another person's rights in my work. Officials should be held to a higher standard.
As for the pension thing, if a cop risked losing it (or something similar) I'd bet my left nut they would think twice about abusing someone's rights.
Explicit Language warning in video below. This is from a standup in 1999....21 years ago. Yet, we're still here, talking about the same things.
Face it, it’s a low paying job for such risk to one’s own life. Atlanta’s Police dept. has a starting pay of around $40k per year. Plenty of them likely have to side work or do do illegal things to have a normal, livable wage.
Let me remind everyone for the 10th time that cops are a holes to all races, and some join the force to have that power to exert over others to make up for some frustration in their lives.
The profiling is an injustice to each individual member of a group of people, and that’s terrible. But what is the solution? How would we ever be able to be certain that it wasn’t being practiced?
I don’t like every unenjoyable event to be attributed to racism.
So that's it? You just throw up some tired rhetoric and think there's a degree of provincialism influencing my perspective?
Put in the effort to research policing tactics, start by reading "Talking to Strangers". Or don't. Continue Googling somebody else's opinions and than offer that up as a means of fueling a debate. You're not being provocative or interesting, you're just cliched.
Unless you're the author of that book, aren't you just "offering up somebody else's opinions"?
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I'm now tempted to drive 5 MPH under the limit in Sampson County all day tomorrow to see if I get pulled over, my being a middle-aged white male and all. Like, maybe I could arrange to have a few friends join me, including some who are minority to run a test to see how it plays out.
The above is what gives away the "provincialism influencing your perspective". (along with your choice of names, of course).
You moved here from up North and now you're trying to tell us how we are doing things wrong.
You're even considering going out and deliberately impeding traffic in an attempt to make a scene.
Unless that was all "tired rhetoric" on your part.
Maybe if the guy in the example had paid attention to his driving he wouldn't have been pulled at all.
It just seems like some enjoy going out of their way to attract negative attention just so they have something to complain about.
Unless you're the author of that book, aren't you just "offering up somebody else's opinions"?
The above is what gives away the "provincialism influencing your perspective". (along with your choice of names, of course).
You moved here from up North and now you're trying to tell us how we are doing things wrong.
You're even considering going out and deliberately impeding traffic in an attempt to make a scene.
Unless that was all "tired rhetoric" on your part.
Maybe if the guy in the example had paid attention to his driving he wouldn't have been pulled at all.
It just seems like some enjoy going out of their way to attract negative attention just so they have something to complain about.
Seems like an awful waste of time to me.
That sounds awfully white of you. You also seem kind of agitated, sorry if social change makes you irritable.
And I drive under the speed limit all of the time and have never been pulled over for doing so. I drive hybrids and love maximizing my MPG numbers and so never speed anymore. It's not really to affect a traffic stop, though it won't ever result in one either because I'm too white.
Lastly, not sure who the "we" is you're referencing, do you consider yourself the poster child for states south of the Mason-Dixon line? Even so, the policing technique I'd referenced is not restricted to the South, so that's a straw man argument from the outset.
That sounds awfully white of you. You also seem kind of agitated, sorry if social change makes you irritable.
And I drive under the speed limit all of the time and have never been pulled over for doing so. I drive hybrids and love maximizing my MPG numbers and so never speed anymore. It's not really to affect a traffic stop, though it won't ever result in one either because I'm too white.
Lastly, not sure who the "we" is you're referencing, do you consider yourself the poster child for states south of the Mason-Dixon line? Even so, the policing technique I'd referenced is not restricted to the South, so that's a straw man argument from the outset.
Snyper, quit sniping.
LOL
I'm just having a conversation and making observations
You're the one "agitated" enough to consider creating a traffic hazard in an attempt to have the opportunity to make a scene.
You still labor under the delusions people in the South care what you Northerners think, and that your virtue signalling on the internet will bring "social change".
Let me know how it works out for you.
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