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Old 02-08-2021, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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every major development in the triangle is always fought from north hills to south point.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease and this was hardly some sort of democratic process. And the only thing socialized was the lopsided NO campaign. I would observe anyone with any actual experience with buc-ees is mostly positive impressions.

As I originally said OC lags far behind its peers wake and durham in development for the most part the only thing that goes is prestige projects. At what point will they be held accountable. Yes wegmans is a prestige project.
I would be shocked if Wake and Durham County would have agreed to a Buc-ee's there as well.
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Old 02-08-2021, 02:53 PM
 
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I would be shocked if Wake and Durham County would have agreed to a Buc-ee's there as well.
Durham cares about jobs and you can watch their city council debate and have hearings on various employment bases to serve their lower SES population like chain restaurants. It's hard to point to land as undeveloped as efland but i have every idea north durham say would be quite receptive.
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Old 02-08-2021, 03:56 PM
 
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Durham cares about jobs and you can watch their city council debate and have hearings on various employment bases to serve their lower SES population like chain restaurants. It's hard to point to land as undeveloped as Efland but i have every idea north Durham say would be quite receptive.
As you mentioned, no really good sites in Durham; I-85 north of US 70 doesn't have the traffic volume that Buc-ee's was probably looking for (40K on I-85 there, instead of 118K on 40/85 in Efland.)

Wegman's probably would have been in Durham if they could have found a suitable site, there really wasn't any that made sense for them, given that their target market included Chapel Hill residents. Would have needed to be along 15-501 or 40 far enough west that didn't overlap with their Cary sites. Nothing really available on either at any interchange.

In the end, Chapel Hill fell over themselves to land Wegman's. (Probably would do the same if their holy grail of big boxes, Costco, wanted to open another site in the Triangle there.)
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Old 02-08-2021, 04:42 PM
 
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Could you imagine if wake and Durham had rural buffer zones like oc. It would be farcical what it would do to development. OC is connecticut progressive but more than that they avail of growth they push out

Yeah I know that's by design

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Old 02-08-2021, 06:47 PM
 
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Lumberton, might be a better choice if they can find the right site so it wouldn't impact the Lumber River. It's halfway between Florida and New York and ideal for catching folks who need a pit-stop.

They've already put one down the road in Florence, so I'm guessing they wanted to go further away for the next one.
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Old 02-08-2021, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Durm
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Durham cares about jobs and you can watch their city council debate and have hearings on various employment bases to serve their lower SES population like chain restaurants. It's hard to point to land as undeveloped as efland but i have every idea north durham say would be quite receptive.
North Durham didn't want Wegmans there (or was it Publix)?

It's just not a great fit for this specific area. It sounds like it's almost a tourist attraction and nobody here wants that. Plus, we're only a few hours in from the coast...east/west travelers don't really need to stop at something like that.

I could see it more in the triad.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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North Durham didn't want Wegmans there (or was it Publix)?

It's just not a great fit for this specific area. It sounds like it's almost a tourist attraction and nobody here wants that. Plus, we're only a few hours in from the coast...east/west travelers don't really need to stop at something like that.

I could see it more in the triad.
https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle...x-grocery.html

This so would have made my life easier rather than having to go to Raleigh for a Publix fix.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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I think Orange County is holding out for Wawa!
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Old 02-09-2021, 05:04 AM
 
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uzR3l2UTwGk

Looks pretty nice to me also is just about a grocery store / hot food to go concept

Efland hardly has a grocery store and between the commerce and tax revenue seems like a loss

I think oc gov knows these things why they asked for things to assuage the.community like ev stations but bucees didn't want to be hen pecked to death so they backed out first
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Old 02-09-2021, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Durm
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That looks like something very fun to have right off I-95.
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