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Old 12-12-2020, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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I totally feel ya! And I agree that in the immediate future high risk groups should be the focus and having vaccine available for them should make a big difference. But as far as getting back to normal, I think it's going to take more than that and addressing vaccine hesitancy and anti-vax campaigns is going to be important. That is all. To be clear, I am not saying that schools need to be or should be closed until all children can be vaccinated just that I don't think things will start getting back to normal until vaccines are widely available and have a high uptake. Honestly, I'm not quite sure what I've said that's so controversial, but I've probably said all I can say on this. I will bow out now.
Oh, you haven't been controversial/combative as...well, you know. I'm just tired of hearing/seeing/thinking "Wow, what's the worst thing they can do?" and then that actually being done.
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Old 12-12-2020, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Duke Raleigh is included in the DHPC and Rex is in the MCRHC. Wake County numbers are therefore split into three different regions. DHHS is giving correct numbers, but they are not parsed out in a way for the general public to get a true picture of Wake County as a whole. Some of the local hospitals may need to decide on cutting back on elective procedures in the next week to keep beds ready. Some are already seeing nursing and other personnel shortages due to essential personnel out with infections. A mid-January hospitalization peak may be reasonable for forecasting planning purposes.
and apparently Federal HHS has now decided to provide individual hospital info, though I haven't looked at it/don't know how up-to-date it is.
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Old 12-12-2020, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The DHHS stats for currently hospitalized in CAPRAC is 191, which doesn't really check out with you saying you have 120 or whatever at a single hospital. It's not that I think you're lying, I'm just trying to understand where the discrepancy is.

I don't know why you're getting so defensive - as usual I'm just trying to understand because it's very rare that anything covid-related makes sense to me when I actually dig into actual numbers. Who should I believe, a random guy on CD that works at the hospital, or the DHHS? Again that's nothing against you, it's just extremely frustrating as an outsider to try and really understand what's going on locally and make a risk assessment for myself. It shouldn't be that way. I refuse to take the media's word for it, and the DHHS should be the end all be all. But from what you're saying, the DHHS is not giving us correct numbers.

Understood - it's obvious that the Trump admin has created a false sense of information for most sources.

Then why would you not try to actually get information from people who work in the hospital. You sitting at home in west Cary and looking at numbers all day, and then come on CD and post your thoughts, doesn't have much merit.
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Old 12-12-2020, 01:19 PM
 
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Understood - it's obvious that the Trump admin has created a false sense of information for most sources.

Then why would you not try to actually get information from people who work in the hospital. You sitting at home in west Cary and looking at numbers all day, and then come on CD and post your thoughts, doesn't have much merit.
Don't you work in a hospital? This is why I'm asking you, but instead you just want to give me a hard time. I apologize that as an outsider the data doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 12-12-2020, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Don't you work in a hospital? This is why I'm asking you, but instead you just want to give me a hard time. I apologize that as an outsider the data doesn't make sense to me.

You are the one give everyone on the damn internet a hard time. F' the data! That's exactly what you like to do, right?

It's obvious you are in west Cary - so why don't you find more accurate information this this BS C-D we got goin on here?

I just came home and ran through each covid-19 floor- it's out of control. If you really think the stats are wrong, shouldn't you walk away from this stupid ass C-D website? I hope you really do.

On the medical side, nobody F-ing listened, Trump was useless and now at our hospital, we are extremely worried and and in trouble.
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Old 12-12-2020, 03:47 PM
 
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You are the one give everyone on the damn internet a hard time. F' the data! That's exactly what you like to do, right?

It's obvious you are in west Cary - so why don't you find more accurate information this this BS C-D we got goin on here?

I just came home and ran through each covid-19 floor- it's out of control. If you really think the stats are wrong, shouldn't you walk away from this stupid ass C-D website? I hope you really do.

On the medical side, nobody F-ing listened, Trump was useless and now at our hospital, we are extremely worried and and in trouble.
I'm lost at this point. It seems you're having a rough day and I legitimately apologize if I contributed to that.
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Old 12-12-2020, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I'm lost at this point. It seems you're having a rough day and I legitimately apologize if I contributed to that.

Damn right it's a rough day - census of 64 COVID-19 inpatients before Thanksgiving and today we are at 127 COVID-19 inpatients. Go ahead and do whatever you want with statistics. Thank your blessings you don't work in a hospital and you sit in west Cary and look at numbers all day.
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:04 PM
 
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Damn right it's a rough day - census of 64 COVID-19 inpatients before Thanksgiving and today we are at 127 COVID-19 inpatients. Go ahead and do whatever you want with statistics. Thank your blessings you don't work in a hospital and you sit in west Cary and look at numbers all day.
Maybe you are trying to be dramatic but that doesn't really sound that bad tbh
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:15 PM
 
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Damn right it's a rough day - census of 64 COVID-19 inpatients before Thanksgiving and today we are at 127 COVID-19 inpatients. Go ahead and do whatever you want with statistics. Thank your blessings you don't work in a hospital and you sit in west Cary and look at numbers all day.
Really the basis behind what was asking is to try and figure out whether the NCDHHS statistics are accurate, because unfortunately important decisions are made based solely on those numbers. If those numbers are not accurate (in either direction), I personally like to understand that.

I'm not a denier. Covid is real and the current increase in hospitalizations and deaths is real. I haven't seen my parents and siblings in 9 months, and only do things outside the house that I have to. I like to understand the data, and I'm sorry that annoys you.

I respect all who work in hospitals very much. I hope things get better for you.

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Old 12-12-2020, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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For whatever reason it seems posters are talking past each other. I understand both the stress on one side and the genuine questions on the other. The person who noted above that Duke Raleigh and REX are in different 'hospital regions' than the one shown for Wake County has the key though, if that's true. It would mean that WakeMed affiliate hospitals would be the only, or at least the only major, facilities in the CAPRAC region, and I can definitely see "Big Wake" having the large majority of those patients. If it is true, color coding the regions by county on the DHHS site is very confusing. Are ALL UNC - affiliated hospitals one region regardless of location? And all Duke facilities in their own region etc? If so, they should be named by hospital group, not geographically. I know there are Novant facilities all over the state - are they all in one "region"? Is there a list of specific hospitals included in each region's stats?
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