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Old 10-12-2020, 03:55 PM
 
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I just realized we've passed the 33% testing mark in the US - certainly 36% by the end of the week. I don't think we clearly know if those are unique individuals or not, but it stuck out to me as a watershed that potentially 1 in 3 people have been tested.

Depending on that individuality, our total positivity is 6.7%. And at this moment, our death rate is down to 2.75%.
For comparison purposes, the flu positivity rate borders on 30% during peak season.
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Old 10-12-2020, 04:52 PM
 
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Observing that most countries continue to take this very seriously is all the data I need at this point. No one is going to convince me this isn't significantly worse than the average flu.
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Old 10-12-2020, 05:52 PM
 
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Observing that most countries continue to take this very seriously is all the data I need at this point. No one is going to convince me this isn't significantly worse than the average flu.
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:11 PM
 
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Score this I had no idea just how badly the "regular" flu was on the body. I'll be honest, it might make me start getting the yearly flu shot.
I used to roll my eyes about getting the flu shot and never used get one for myself or my kids until I got a really bad flu several years ago. It knocked me on my butt like nothing had before, and I ended up developing pneumonia which fortunately was mild but still very surprising and slightly alarming. I was in perfect health and had absolutely no underlying health conditions. The whole family gets it every year now even though it's not the most effective vaccine. So far, so good.
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:58 PM
 
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Observing that most countries continue to take this very seriously is all the data I need at this point. No one is going to convince me this isn't significantly worse than the average flu.
Australia announced they plan to keep their border closed until late 2021 and that's even if there's a vaccine. Folks are starting to flip. Apparently they've now made it an arrestable offense if you post, ie Twitter, against the lockdown and are actually coming to homes of individuals doing so.

Meanwhile the WHO is starting to fracture and is now seeing the damage widespread lockdowns are having on the poor countries and as well as in general lower income workers.

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“We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,†Nabarro said.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/11/who-wa...onomic-damage/
In light of that coming out, I do wonder if opinions will start to change slowly about lockdowns here. Our case counts never really accelerated like they did elsewhere in other states. Masks seem fairly effective at being able to mostly live a normal economic life.
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:59 PM
 
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I used to roll my eyes about getting the flu shot and never used get one for myself or my kids until I got a really bad flu several years ago. It knocked me on my butt like nothing had before, and I ended up developing pneumonia which fortunately was mild but still very surprising and slightly alarming. I was in perfect health and had absolutely no underlying health conditions. The whole family gets it every year now even though it's not the most effective vaccine. So far, so good.
Wow what a crazy story. You just never know. Have you had any negative effects of the flu shot?
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:38 PM
 
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Wow what a crazy story. You just never know. Have you had any negative effects of the flu shot?
Nothing other than last year I had some pretty bad brusing, swelling, and soreness at the injection site. However, my daughter said it was just because I have boney arms. I think it was the nurse. Also, my son got a pretty big rash at the injection site last year which he's never had before.

Both reactions are apparently common and normal although, if I'm being honest, have me slightly reluctant to go this year but I still will. My daughter has never had any kind of a reaction nor has my husband, and he's been getting them for years at his job.
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:57 PM
 
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Nothing other than last year I had some pretty bad brusing, swelling, and soreness at the injection site. However, my daughter said it was just because I have boney arms. I think it was the nurse. Also, my son got a pretty big rash at the injection site last year which he's never had before.

Both reactions are apparently common and normal although, if I'm being honest, have me slightly reluctant to go this year but I still will. My daughter has never had any kind of a reaction nor has my husband, and he's been getting them for years at his job.
It's weird that an injection would give you bruising.
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:59 PM
 
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Probability of symptoms and critical disease by age group:

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2006/2006.08471.pdf

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Old 10-12-2020, 08:13 PM
 
Location: NC
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It's weird that an injection would give you bruising.
The swelling and sorness are common reactions for flu shots but the bruising was probably more related to how the injection was given and my physiology. The redness my son experienced is listed as a common reaction and it cleared up in a couple days.

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