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Old 09-29-2020, 09:40 AM
 
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I would add to the discussion that unless you have already mailed in your ballot as did Lottamoxie and you're not at super high risk for cov-vid, consider early voting. Every day for two weeks, 8 am till 7:30 during the week. Shortened hours on Sat. and Sun. But the window for mail in ballots is closing. Plus we have already been told what is in the works for this election. It's been telegraphed for weeks now. I think psychologists call it projection. Rigged election?

I do appreciate that NC has early voting for a good two weeks and I'm especially glad about the paper ballots as well. But still, I get everyone's concerns. Never thought I would see the day.....

 
Old 09-29-2020, 09:46 AM
 
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I would add to the discussion that unless you have already mailed in your ballot as did Lottamoxie and you're not at super high risk for cov-vid, consider early voting. Every day for two weeks, 8 am till 7:30 during the week. Shortened hours on Sat. and Sun. But the window for mail in ballots is closing. Plus we have already been told what is in the works for this election. It's been telegraphed for weeks now. I think psychologists call it projection. Rigged election?

I do appreciate that NC has early voting for a good two weeks and I'm especially glad about the paper ballots as well. But still, I get everyone's concerns. Never thought I would see the day.....

Its going to be a very contentious next 113 days, perhaps unlike any period in the last 170 years of our history.


I know I have a drinking game with some neighbors setup for tonight's debate. In looking at some of the "Drink!" categories, tomorrow morning could be pretty, pretty lumpy


Already have the early voting times in our shared family calendar on our phones. It's been our plan all along.
 
Old 09-29-2020, 10:40 AM
 
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Congress passed a bill in 2006 that required the USPS to pre-fund their retirement healthcare costs 75 years into the future, which has led, in part, to the financial situations we are seeing with them now. I believe, but someone could fact check me, they are the only Federal Agency with this requirement (or the scale of the requirement) and sans this requirement would have actually been in the black.


I'm not arguing USPS was a cash cow before; I would argue that a system at least foundationally laid out in the US Constitution, has bigger virtues in existence than turning a profit, but the most recent "the USPS is a loser financially" bumper sticker, is in many ways, a self fulfilling prophecy.

Citydata is stingy with the rep points but anyway thanks for the background history.

That bumper sticker you mentioned goes back to "Greed is good." *before your time GV but you may have read about it*

I've seen poor souls (driving the most dilapidated vehicles on the planet) with bumper stickers that go against every possible self interest they could ever possess that would make their lives even marginally better.
 
Old 09-29-2020, 10:55 AM
 
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Citydata is stingy with the rep points but anyway thanks for the background history.

That bumper sticker you mentioned goes back to "Greed is good." *before your time GV but you may have read about it*

I've seen poor souls (driving the most dilapidated vehicles on the planet) with bumper stickers that go against every possible self interest they could ever possess that would make their lives even marginally better.
To play on Nino Brown’s line from the courtroom scene in New Jack City

“Greed and voting against your own self interests....this is the American Way”
 
Old 09-29-2020, 11:10 AM
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Likely Amazon could do it better. Post office only comes to my house once a day. Amazon is at my house every hour it seems LOL!

I agree. Instead of the government trying to kluge some Rube Goldberg scheme together to distribute the long awaited vaccine, the government should go to Google, Amazon, Fed-Ex and UPS and say fix it. Include Gates and Musk for kicks, too.
 
Old 09-29-2020, 11:14 AM
 
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I signed up to work at a Wake County poll location on Election Day (location TBD since I guess they'll have to figure out how many volunteers they have) but it's been interesting to learn about how everything works.

For example, if you fill out an absentee ballot, your name will be posted at your poll location (and marked in the poll books) so poll workers will know to make sure you can't vote twice.
 
Old 09-29-2020, 11:49 AM
 
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I agree. Instead of the government trying to kluge some Rube Goldberg scheme together to distribute the long awaited vaccine, the government should go to Google, Amazon, Fed-Ex and UPS and say fix it. Include Gates and Musk for kicks, too.
That should absolutely NOT happen. We have a federal service that should take care of our ballots. No big tech should mingle in our democratic processes. Do you want government to hand over all the data so that these companies can "fix" our problems? They will track and eventually **** all of us over for $$$.

We should continue supporting USPS. The day you get rid of this service because you think Amazon is better is the day you are placing your future communication in the hand of companies that function under "quid pro quo" -- what do you think is going to happen when a crooked government decides to withhold all the mail? one call to some Jeff Bezos 2.0 and all your civil society is gone.
 
Old 09-29-2020, 11:53 AM
 
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I agree. Instead of the government trying to kluge some Rube Goldberg scheme together to distribute the long awaited vaccine, the government should go to Google, Amazon, Fed-Ex and UPS and say fix it. Include Gates and Musk for kicks, too.
Google, Amazon, FedEx, UPS etc aren't going to go "the last mile" for delivery when it becomes profit impacting to do so.

Privatization in a beautiful thing in some cases.....but not everything in a society should be about someone's bottom line. Society has virtues that supersede that paradigm.
 
Old 09-29-2020, 01:03 PM
 
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Google, Amazon, FedEx, UPS etc aren't going to go "the last mile" for delivery when it becomes profit impacting to do so.

Privatization in a beautiful thing in some cases.....but not everything in a society should be about someone's bottom line. Society has virtues that supersede that paradigm.
I was listening to a podcast episode earlier this week about how insurance companies have pulled out of areas of the country that have high fire/flood risks and how that has forced states to provide their own insurance programs (at high cost). I guess in this instance, it can be debatable whether we should continue to insure such risky investments if the private sector has pulled out.
 
Old 09-29-2020, 01:18 PM
 
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I was listening to a podcast episode earlier this week about how insurance companies have pulled out of areas of the country that have high fire/flood risks and how that has forced states to provide their own insurance programs (at high cost). I guess in this instance, it can be debatable whether we should continue to insure such risky investments if the private sector has pulled out.
Juxtapose that against the approach of the Insurance industry in Australia has taken with Climate Change/Flooding/Brush-fires (even though they are further along the "Climate Extreme" spectrum than we are).

There - Its basically "we (Insurance Industry) need to work with local and state Governments to ensure we better incorporate mitigation as part of our development plans as areas continue to grow to account for the changing environment around us" while admitting that natural disasters will increase premiums.

Here - "Uhhhhhhh, we're just going to stop offering insurance in Central CA because we can't make money on it".

As for the mail, we have a society. That society stretches across highways and byways. From the NYCs to the Falkland NCs. People receive payments, medications, ballots, letters from loved ones etc etc etc etc via snail mail. If profitability is the measure by which we connect and reach those places, then we aren't a society, we are gladiators in an arena existing for the whims of the string pullers.
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