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I think the reason buses work in Chapel Hill is simple. They are convenient—more convenient than cars to get to campus. So many people (professors, staff, students, citizens) use it that it doesn't have any stigma in town of being only for less well off folks. Not sure if you can make the bus more convenient than cars in other parts of the Triangle, but maybe with the dedicated fast lanes. BTW, I'm sure some students do use the bus to get groceries if they can't walk or drive. That baby Target gets a lot of grocery action downtown, too.
Yes, as long as driving is more convenient, people are never going to take transit. It doesn’t have to do with bus stigma or not having rail instead of buses, it’s about frequency/reliability of transit and convenience in relation to driving.
There is a national obsession with light rail as some sort of north star. IMO, I would rather see commuter rail on existing heavy rail lines establish nodes of denser development at new/existing stops, and leverage BRT for intracity transit.
I agree, and it's never made a lot of sense to me, especially considering that you could setup stations in Zebulon Wendell Knightdale, Wakemed, DTR West/NC State, Cary, Morrisville, RTP, Durham, on the same line.
Wake Forest, Durant Rd, Millbrook, Whitaker Mill, DTR, on the same line, Selma, Wilsons Mill, Clayton, Garner, terminating at a Raleigh transfer point.
Moncure, New Hill, Apex, Morrisville/RTP, Durham, on the same line.
East-West to CHapel Hill is where the existing lines fall short.
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i think the problem with BRT is youll never make it seem beyond a poor people's mode of transportation and then its death of a thousand cuts
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Yes, as long as driving is more convenient, people are never going to take transit. It doesn’t have to do with bus stigma or not having rail instead of buses, it’s about frequency/reliability of transit and convenience in relation to driving.
Yes, I knew plenty of well paid folks that took the bus from Uptown or Northeast Minneapolis to downtown. It wasn't the be-all and end-all. But if you were working in a handful of skyscraper office buildings, or seeing a concert, twins game, etc, it was better.
I can't believe they tore down a big chunk of Seaboard for guess what, more bland apartments. At least build another Skyhouse or Walter highrise, and not more tender boxes like the Metropolitan.
I can't believe they tore down a big chunk of Seaboard for guess what, more bland apartments. At least build another Skyhouse or Walter highrise, and not more tender boxes like the Metropolitan.
Damn shame. I was floored when I saw the actual demolition had already started. Raleigh is on quest to “out vanilla” Cary at this point .
I can't believe they tore down a big chunk of Seaboard for guess what, more bland apartments. At least build another Skyhouse or Walter highrise, and not more tender boxes like the Metropolitan.
Interesting. “They” was Peace College, AKA William Peace University, who sold the land to one of the most prominent urban infill developers in the USA. “They” are building a $ 300 million dollar development there, not a “tinder box” as some put it.
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