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Clemson, FSU and Miami, are all in states with current SEC members. I'm not sure USC and Florida will be too happy to welcome them to their league. Time will tell...
Clemson, FSU and Miami, are all in states with current SEC members. I'm not sure USC and Florida will be too happy to welcome them to their league. Time will tell...
All that ultimately matters in this current expansion scenario is does adding school X increase my payout from conference. Adding Clemson adds a marquee matchup that draws viewers, and there’s significant revenue from that. If SC has more money flowing in as a result of adding Clemson, not sure why they’d be unhappy. Did FSU get upset when Miami got added to the ACC?
Of course money is a factor but I can't see why a school that is already struggling to attract recruits and compete (S. Carolina) would want a direct competitor to share in the spoils of all that $$.. It's been rumored for years that Kentucky, SC and Florida have an agreement to block other schools in their state from joining the league.
The ACC needed FSU and Miami much more to improve their football standing. Unfortunately, it hasn't really worked out with Miami and FSU worked for some time but has fallen off the map in the last decade or so..
Is it true.. and, will greed win out? We'll see...
The rumor of the theory about blocking new in-state schools seems to have been laid to rest with Texas A&M being powerless to stop Texas. Whether FSU/Miami provide enough to overcome the fact they don’t expand the market is an open question. I think Clemson does, but then SC is still rather small. New markets (NCSU, UNC, Virginia, VPI) seem nearly as important as extra quality.
They left out of the article that it is also the school that had a fake major that allowed players to do zero work. Sterling academic reputation indeed...
They left out of the article that it is also the school that had a fake major that allowed players to do zero work. Sterling academic reputation indeed...
And those classes were still harder than most SEC school core courses..lol
I still think the cannibalization has started and will not end up good. If I were UNC, I’d stay put and move away from market panic. This thing is out of control and somehow the NCAA should’ve capped conference revenue $500 million (of course with yearly increases) and membership at 16 teams. No way the conference model starts intact, no one is safe until the music stops…2 conferences with divisions of heavy weights..basically, the NFL
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And those classes were still harder than most SEC school core courses..lol
I still think the cannibalization has started and will not end up good. If I were UNC, I’d stay put and move away from market panic. This thing is out of control and somehow the NCAA should’ve capped conference revenue $500 million (of course with yearly increases) and membership at 16 teams. No way the conference model starts intact, no one is safe until the music stops…2 conferences with divisions of heavy weights..basically, the NFL
Then all the small schools get culled from the conferences ( Vandy) and the ones left out re-organize. I bet the super conferences break up. Id much rather the ACC stay intact and ride this out somehow however unlikely that is.
Then all the small schools get culled from the conferences ( Vandy) and the ones left out re-organize. I bet the super conferences break up. Id much rather the ACC stay intact and ride this out somehow however unlikely that is.
I think it is far less likely than speculators want it to be. But scandalization gets attention/clicks.
I think it is far less likely than speculators want it to be. But scandalization gets attention/clicks.
I just don’t see how at least one of Notre Dame or Clemson sticks around long term with this new landscape. The Grant of Rights stuff is a hurdle, but there’s so much money at stake, it seems worth tackling.
And if either of those go, the ACC is clearly diminished. ND is easier to deal with, although those tie-in FB games have a lot of value that’s hard to replace. Losing Clemson would be devastating. A school that might’ve accepted the current status quo of an ACC that pays out far less than the P2 is now looking at losing a big driver of the entire conference’s value in football. The haves are going to be looking at their options, and the ACC will come up short.
Unless a school can overcome the Grant of Rights, which is a high hurdle and unlikely, the school has zero value to the SEC or B1G. Each school in those conferences will take home ~$100 million, so any school that is added needs to bring at least that much additional revenue, or the other schools have to take a pay cut willingly (very unlikely). Even without the GoR, are there any ACC schools that can increase the media rights of the SEC by $100 million or more? I'm highly doubtful any can, but maybe Clemson?
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