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It's become apparent that the law is on the side of cyclists regarding the content of this thread. Still, with the motoring public becoming dumber, less skilled and more aggressive, and with roadways becoming ever more congested, I'd advocate for a more judicious selection of how, when and where we ride. Personally, I've never been afraid to write off a particular route as problematic. Of my many failings, stubborn insistence has never numbered among them.
Thanks - most experienced road riding cyclists, especially those that commute, continually make such choices.
We've had to try out various routes and learn which ones work or are problematic - such as, "can't reliably make a left here", "the road design, obstruction, quality, or climb grade prevents [an action or path]" - even, "damn - [a route] would have been a much more direct way, but it's too risky". For our own safety, and for semi-peaceful driver/cyclist coexistence.
Commuting drivers and bicyclists both try out routes and hope they work well - sometimes they don't, and often not for the same reason(s).
My personal experience? I bicycle commuted in various cities and suburban areas, on both coasts, on & off for forty-five years. Owned/rode motorcycles too. Now retired, older, and weaker I now ride relatively fast home-assembled electric pedal bicycles to complete most errand running (groceries and the like). I get the impression that my e-bike's ability to go that much faster (averaging 20mph, short bursts in the 30s) reduces driver angst/anger, and opens up more route possibilities. There are some rather large downsides to e-bikes though (ride quality non-powered, initial purchase cost, and battery safety are some examples), and their range versus speed tradeoff is limiting. But for some, e-bikes have reduced reliance on cars for in-range, route-permitting commuting and errands.
Last edited by ncwheeling; 05-28-2023 at 10:10 AM..
Bicycle riders love to hog up the entire lane and cause rolling traffic jams. Everyone knows they are doing it on purpose or they would pull over and let people get by. Most never stop for stop signs either. Really needs to be banned because it’s illegal to impede traffic
Bicycle riders love to hog up the entire lane and cause rolling traffic jams. Everyone knows they are doing it on purpose or they would pull over and let people get by. Most never stop for stop signs either. Really needs to be banned because it’s illegal to impede traffic
A lot of this thread is reading like that time Bob Dumas from G105 encouraged listeners to throw trash at cyclists while driving past them. Grow up.
Do I get annoyed with the inconvenience of having to slow down/go around cyclists on road while I'm driving? Sure. Do I wish bike-lanes were more ubiquitous on local roads to ease the issue...yep. But the childish quips and whining here is ridiculous.
A lot of this thread is reading like that time Bob Dumas from G105 encouraged listeners to throw trash at cyclists while driving past them. Grow up.
Do I get annoyed with the inconvenience of having to slow down/go around cyclists on road while I'm driving? Sure. Do I wish bike-lanes were more ubiquitous on local roads to ease the issue...yep. But the childish quips and whining here is ridiculous.
Lol...almost everyone can't wait til the U.S. has an elaborate bike path system patterned after many of our roadways. They just don't want to admit they'd be willing to spare the dime
Chevy drivers love to hog up the shoulders broken down, causing rolling traffic jams as people work to safely maneuver around them. Most never stop for stop signs either. Really needs to be banned because it’s illegal to impede traffic.
As you probably know, cyclists are banned (as they should be) from limited access highways.
You just quoted me saying that, so yes, I do know.
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Again, you guys are basically demonstrating that you don't value anyone else's life or needs if they cause any inconvenience to you.
I don't answer to "you guys". I am my own person, with my own thoughts and ideas, and I don't subscribe to your "us vs. them" mentality. Your assessment is entirely wrong, but you're entitled to think whatever you'd like.
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I still don't understand why you are willing to take the risk of mowing a cyclist down and devestating a family by killing their loved ones, but you don't seem to be willing to take that same risk with a massive farm tractor. Since many have already stated they understand the laws of physics, I guess you are just demonstrating that you place a higher value on your own life than that of someone else. You litterally say that you risk whipping around a corner not knowing if a cyclist (or kid) is there or not, even though you state it is very likely they are there, and you state that you know the laws of physics and know that impact will KILL them, but since you don't think Farm Tractors and Boulders are all that common, you're willing to take the risk. Seriously, how do you justify this?
Your reading comprehension is terrible. Whatever you think you read, you didn't.
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^EDIT: Yeah, it seems a bit dramatic, but this is literally a summary of what you and a few others have said. The majority of people just want to find the solution to a problem and that's a great discussion. You guys? Honestly, if you ever do "accidentally" mow down a cyclist who was between you and your McDouble, I certainly hope that the lawyers for the deceased find your comments in this discussion. It's sad how much some have devalued human life.
Of course its dramatic. You took my words and spliced them into the words of other people to say that I said something that I never did.
How do you deal with slow moving farm equipment that is going 10-20 mph in a 55 mph zone in rural NC?
I don't deal with it personally but if its a truly rural area, it doesn't present as big of a danger to the operator and the general public as a heavily trafficked road in RTP. Some of these usage decisions could be better made with input from local officials.
Chevy drivers love to hog up the shoulders broken down, causing rolling traffic jams as people work to safely maneuver around them. Most never stop for stop signs either. Really needs to be banned because it’s illegal to impede traffic.
While it’s true Gm transmissions are junk and they do break down and cause traffic issues, Do you know the difference between a Chevy driver causing issues and the bicycle rider causing the issues? The Chevy driver doesn’t laugh about it
Ah yes, notoriously emotionless automobile drivers vs the ever prone to murderous road rage cyclist.
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