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We had this argument a while ago in a thread now locked (is it against the TOS to link to locked threads here, or am I confusing it with another message board I visit?). Myself and a couple of others were arguing that there was value in examining the breakdown of the crime in Durham, and you kept on just saying that the numbers are the numbers.
Funny how that changes now.
I never said there wasn't value in examining why Durham had such a high crime and murder rate. That is useful for the authorities and city leaders trying to solve the issues. But as a potential resident the causes really don't matter that much. A high rate is a high rate, and Durham has had a consistent high murder rate for many years.
I never said there wasn't value in examining why Durham had such a high crime and murder rate. That is useful for the authorities and city leaders trying to solve the issues. But as a potential resident the causes really don't matter that much. A high rate is a high rate, and Durham has had a consistent high murder rate for many years.
So, you would disagree with the posters earlier in this thread who said they aren't concerned about this increase in Raleigh since they are mostly domestic in nature, right? I mean, it would be useful for the city leaders and all, but for the residents, it doesn't really matter. An increase in rate is an increase in rate.
If the cause of crime doesn't matter for Durham, than it doesn't matter for Raleigh, right?
In terms of a spike, I think it is interesting to look at the numbers to understand if there is any significance as to why the numbers have spiked. Is it a sudden number of domestic disputes caused by the economy or other reasons? Is it a sudden rash of gang-related crime? Is it a long crazy out there killing random people? But over a long period of years and when comparing geographically similar cities, I don't think it holds a ton of value.
In terms of a spike, I think it is interesting to look at the numbers to understand if there is any significance as to why the numbers have spiked. Is it a sudden number of domestic disputes caused by the economy or other reasons? Is it a sudden rash of gang-related crime? Is it a long crazy out there killing random people? But over a long period of years and when comparing geographically similar cities, I don't think it holds a ton of value.
We have been through this argument enough to know that no one's opinion is going to change.
What's interesting to supporters of Durham is that crime figures for Raleigh must have some sort of explanation, whereas similar figures for Durham are just because "that's the way Durham is"
You should all be glad you are not living in Baltimore or DC or similar. I think Baltimore had 17 murders this morning.
With population growth comes a larger number in murders because there are more people and with this being a more affordable part of the country, people who had little and committed crimes in areas where they could not afford to live are coming here to a better situation but are bringing that same criminal attitude with them. Urban Sprawl leaves plenty of opportunity for crime due to the large area of getaway opportunities and with more people moving there are more homes and people to rob and kill. Sorry people but the growth is here as well as the crime.
I could be wrong and please correct me if I am, but I don't see many of these murders happening in the new "sprawly" secions of Raleigh. Do you actually believe that people will kill someone because of urban sprawl making it easier for them to get away with the crime I don't quite get what you're saying?
I could be wrong and please correct me if I am, but I don't see many of these murders happening in the new "sprawly" secions of Raleigh. Do you actually believe that people will kill someone because of urban sprawl making it easier for them to get away with the crime I don't quite get what you're saying?
Not directly because of urban sprawl but having a larger area to "retreat" to makes it easier to just get away. Also, most criminals are not conducting their activities in their back yards. they could be leaving those new areas and traveling to other parts to do their dirty deeds. Criminals do have cars (I wonder if gas prices will effect their travel patterns). I don't know where the crimes exactly happen but I think there could be some part of the increase do to the area being that much wider to cover in regards to law enforcement. Now that being said, larger cities, NY, Chicago, Detroit all have murders at a much higher per capita rate than here, but that's apples to oranges. My thoughts are opportunity drives crime and if people are much more spread out from one another then could it possibly be that creates that opportunity.
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I don't quite get what you're saying?
