08-08-2008, 02:54 PM
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A home inspection found some items during an inspection that needed to be corrected/repaired. I have found out that the homeowner did these things himself. (installing CFCI for one) I'm not sure how comfortable I am that someone other an electrician has done these repairs so that they can save themselves money. Is this something I should even make a fuss about? Anything electrical concerns me. Advice please.
08-08-2008, 03:09 PM
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If we pay the inspector more money to go back out and re-check items then I guess. In his report it states to be done by a professional electrician. Is this making an issue a whole lot over nothing?
08-08-2008, 03:37 PM
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
pearljammer
If we pay the inspector more money to go back out and re-check items then I guess. In his report it states to be done by a professional electrician. Is this making an issue a whole lot over nothing?
If the inspector finds nothing wrong, and the work was done appropriately, then I don't see a problem. If it wasn't done to code -- and maybe you need to have an actual electrician look at the work -- or if a permit needed to be pulled and wasn't, then I think you'd have something to discuss with the seller.
What electrical things were needed to be done? If installing a GFCI outlet (I assume that's what you mean by "CFCI") is the most complicated, I wouldn't be too concerned; that seems pretty straightforward.
08-08-2008, 03:41 PM
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Okay, thanks all!
08-08-2008, 03:50 PM
Location: Fuquay-Varina
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All electrical work MUST be done by a licensed electrician with one exception; a homeowner can do the electrical work, but only if the house is NOT on the market and they plan on living there for 2 years. With that said, installing a gfci is an easy task so I would not worry too much.
08-08-2008, 03:51 PM
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The repair request says GFI receptable, junction boxes, fittings, etc to be corrected by licensed electrician. After we initialed and sent to them. They then crossed out the "licensed electrician" part, initialed and sent back saying work was done by seller. My concern I guess is we're buying it and if it wasn't done properly then it's going to be our problem for us later right? I guess that's my concern and want to cover our own butts.
08-08-2008, 04:16 PM
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Quote:
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sacredgrooves
All electrical work MUST be done by a licensed electrician with one exception; a homeowner can do the electrical work, but only if the house is NOT on the market and they plan on living there for 2 years. With that said, installing a gfci is an easy task so I would not worry too much.
Found the law, although there's no "two years" requirement (unless that's something from case law); the applicable statute states a property owner can do electrical work upon his own property only when "such property is not intended at the time for rent, lease, or sale".
G.S. 87-43.1 . So, it appears this work was illegal. Query whether I broke the law by having my brother-in-law install dimmer switches (and had a friend fix a short that my brother-in-law introduced)...
Sorry for the aside, but I'd definitely bring it to the attention of the seller or his agent. Even if the sales contract allowed him to do the work himself, it was illegal for him to do it himself. At the very least, I'd insist that the seller pay for an electrician to look at the work to make sure it was done properly. Should still be cheaper for the seller than having the electrician do the work.
08-08-2008, 05:36 PM
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Well, they aren't being nice about it. Apparantly the agent didn't even know he was going to do repairs himself until after he'd done them. They say they aren't paying for an electrician and the choice was either fix it or not. They chose to fix only doing it themselves. That website was great by the way. Thank you geoff, I would have never thought to look somewhere like that for any information.
08-09-2008, 03:46 PM
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If the person knows what they are doing it should be fine. It would be nice to know if the person had ever worked as an electrician or aprentice at any point in his life. I've been one for the past ten years. I've come across work done by homeowners that looks like they had no friggin clue what they were doing and on the other hand I've seen homeowner electrical repairs that's okay and meets code. If all he did was replace a GFI, that is'nt very difficult at all (for most people
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08-09-2008, 04:26 PM
Location: Beautiful Raleigh, NC
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Pearljammer, we were in a similar situation where the inspector found electrical deficits. Our wonderful realtor recommended that we require a "licensed electrician" language in the offer. The sellers obliged and provided us with the evidence that this person performed the work. I think this is invaluable as the electrician "guarantees" that his work was done properly. If we have any issues we'd contact him. We've spoken with him about doing some other things for us and know his hourly rate is not much. It's a shame the seller won't make this final investment to remedy this. Why would they risk losing a perfectly good offer over a little coin.
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Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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